• Dangitbobby [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    In the Scandinavian countries the means of production are primarily owned by private individuals, not the community or the government, and resources are allocated to their respective uses by the market, not government or community planning. Scandinavian countries are highly capitalist, and incredibly high on the Economic Freedom Index. Entrepreneurship and free markets are fervently embraced, Sweden adopted a universal school choice system in the 1990s that is nearly identical to the system proposed by libertarian economist Milton Friedman, and there are no minimum wage laws in Sweden or Norway or Denmark. What Nordic countries practice is the Nordic Model, something that is possible there because of their tiny homogenous populations and high natural resources to support the taxation need for the welfare programs. In fact the social success of the Scandinavian countries predate this model, with several studies showing that the greatest decrease in income inequality there came prior to the implementation of the welfare state.

    And even if you say their baseline quality of life is better than the average American, in reality it's a function of vast demographic difference. In reality, Danish-Americans have a measured living standard about 55 percent higher than the Danes in Denmark. Swedish-Americans have a living standard 53 percent higher than the Swedes, and Finnish-Americans have a living standard 59 percent higher than those back in Finland. The emigration rate from this supposed Scandinavian Utopia to the US is positive, with Sweden, Denmark, Finland and Norway having so many people emigrating to America and very few going the other way.

    Youth in Nordic countries, among the most privileged to ever walk the planet Earth, feel miserable. https://euobserver.com/nordic/147365

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There is no minimum wage because trade unions are influential enough to be able to set the wage floor themselves without government intervention.

      Also, wtf are these citations. Most of them, other than Wikipedia, are just sourced to the same libertarian ghoul. I'm one of the first to shit on the nordic model, but how is an article stating that the US shouldn't have any welfare as to not attract poor migrants a debunking of the welfare state?

    • happyandhappy [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      the Nordic Model, something that is possible there because of their tiny homogenous populations and high natural resources to support the taxation need for the welfare programs

      how does this work exactly?

      • Krem [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        sounds like american exceptionalism to me. that big "diverse" country is too big and diverse for a very basic light-socdem welfare apparatus to function. i'm not going to shit on poster above since i'm sure they aren't the kind of person i'm thinking of, but this kind of reasoning is something I've heard often from americans, libs and conservatives alike. sweden is homogenous and that's why it can do certain things, also it's not homogenous at all because there are too many non-white non-protestants. shit gets tiring. there are a thousand things to criticize sweden for, and i'm tired of american made up reasons.