https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-01/a-third-of-americans-making-250-000-say-costs-eat-entire-salary

    • sgtlion [any]
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      2 years ago

      Precisely, it's a trap worth avoiding. Just 'cause the butler slave gets better rations than us other slaves doesn't mean he's the enemy.

        • sgtlion [any]
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          2 years ago

          I mean yeah, no doubt. They can totally be problematic or awful too, just saying that they are a fellow prole who too have chains to break.

    • Quimby [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      hexbear has been pretty good about that. I've been very transparent here about being a bourgeoisie class traitor, and there's been some hostility here and there (and some of it my fault), but mostly people have been very nice.

    • Anemasta [any]
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      2 years ago

      they still both own exactly nothing compared to the ludicrous amounts that real bourgs own

      If you frame class this way there's a whole world of real bourgeois who only see the kind of opulence those proles live in on tv.

        • Anemasta [any]
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          2 years ago

          I'm trying to say that the world, particularly the developing world, is full of honest to god bourgeois that are hilariously poor compared to those $250k people discussed in the article.

            • Anemasta [any]
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              2 years ago

              I'm not really equipped for discussion about America, but isn't it crawling with shitty business people whose shitty businesses are struggling to bring any money? What's a median US business owner?

              • jabrd [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                All anectdotal: Petty Bourgeois who employ a sizable number of people (not mom and pop shop types who employ 1-2 extra people, and let’s be real these people are rapidly being put out of business by megacorps) would be in the article’s income range. Someone who owns a few subway locations is probably making as much or just a bit lower than a west coast coder. But they don’t live on the west coast they get to live like gods in Hickory Sticks, GA where things are cheaper.

                • Anemasta [any]
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                  2 years ago

                  Interesting. I've just looked it up and supposedly one Subway restaurant costs around $250k to start and generates about $30k of profit a year.

                  • jabrd [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    Start up costs sound high and profitability sounds low but subway was a stand in, it’s not the industry I’m familiar with. If you roughly halved the start up cost that sounds more accurate to me and honestly I wonder if the profits sound lower because the owners are “paying themselves a salary” which obfuscates what’s really coming over the bottom line

                    • Anemasta [any]
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                      2 years ago

                      Those profits do sound surprisingly low.