• kristina [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    shit women have to fuckin put up with

    god i unironically hate 95% of men

    • Koa_lala [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      You are right, but it's not just women getting stung, apparently.

      "No victims have reported sexual assault; one said he was robbed, in Grenoble in April, according to Le Monde newspaper."

      it's really quite weird.

  • JuneFall [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Conspiracy theories arise, the talk about Berlin clubs having that problem only arise after Musk got shitfaced and was rejected entry by some (and just this week he was speaking in favor of the Zodiac killer, combining that with him being anti-moral as billionaire...)

  • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    This was brought up a few months ago in the QAA pod (episode 166, starting at 10:39), in response to the police-based rumors (which then were confirmed to be bullshit) of someone getting stuck by a random needle. Annie Kelly came on to talk about the needle attack cases that were happening in the UK, and added a lot of skepticism to this overall.

    I (along with Annie) genuinely believe that these victims have been spiked, but I find it very unlikely that it was actually through a syringe. Some points:

    • Spiking is most often done by adding more alcohol to a drink - this is easy for the spiker and gives them plausible deniability, and cops hand wave these cases away by saying the victim just couldn't handle their liquor.
    • A syringe, by contrast, needs to be snuck into a club and precisely stabbed into the victim's vein, found in the dark and motion-heavy club environment, no less
    • Getting stabbed by a needle provokes an innate physical reaction to move away from the source, limiting the amount of drug that could be potentially injected
    • Over the hundreds of reported cases, only a single crime has been reported (a robbery), while traditionally spikers choose a target to then commit some crime (usually sexual assault). Drugs aren't free and it seems unlikely to me that people would use them just to give other people like worse hangovers
    • There were similar rumors of people going around clubs during the AIDS epidemic sticking people with HIV-positive needles, which turned out to be bullshit

    Don't get me wrong, I think it's definitely possible that someone motivated could pull off a needle spike attack, but an epidemic of unconnected attacks across Europe without follow-up crimes or evidence of drugs in the system seems incredibly unlikely.

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    Either some cool new disease is being spread, or this is some cult nonsense. Unless they can find a medical reason for this, it sounds to me like they're marking people for some reason, especially with it happening at festivals or other celebratory spaces but not other packed places like subways. reminds me of the needle assassins from ancient Rome. Hope they get to the bottom of the soon.

  • Koa_lala [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Future headline: "Is Russia spreading a bioweapon through needle attacks? It's might be more likely than you think"

    Don't mind me, I'm just turning the lathe.

    • OneBillionRubyWasps [he/him,comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      In 3 years they'll casually run the " Oh btw it turns out those needle attacks were neo Nazis with monkeypox" update and nobody will notice because everyone will be talking about Elon Musk's failed attempt to start an R Kelly compound or something.