• gayhobbes [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Yeah I was super into it for a bit until I realized it was mostly yet another vehicle for anti-Semitic and Islamophobic stupidity.

    • JudgeJuche [he/him]
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      I'm not going to stop fighting for human rights just because some people suck.

      • gayhobbes [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Nor should you but the INTACTIVISTS are literally a bunch of white men pretending that they're getting clipped by the MATRIARCHY

    • qublic69 [none/use name]
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      it was mostly yet another vehicle for anti-Semitic and Islamophobic stupidity

      No, it's not. People are so upset about it because it personally affected them.

      The majority of American boys are circumcised:
      https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hestat/circumcision_2013/circumcision_2013.htm#fig1

      If anything Jews in America tend to be more liberal/lefty than Christians.
      The circumcision rate in Israel is unknown but decreasing: https://forward.com/news/israel/391496/circumcision-rates-are-slipping-even-in-israel
      https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-circumcision/in-israel-some-rebel-against-circumcision-idUSBRE8AR0M720121128

      Islamic circumcision does not have strict rules, the preferred age is 7 days or 7 years old or in puberty.
      That can be done with consent, and local anesthesia which is usually not given to babies.
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam/islamethics/malecircumcision.shtml

      Circumcision is only a tiny part of it, but religious reform and modernization can improve millions of lives.

      • gayhobbes [he/him]
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        No, it’s not. People are so upset about it because it personally affected them.

        Nah, again, it's mostly white men who want to feel like victims. I am against circumcision but I'm hardly an INTACTIVIST

        • qublic69 [none/use name]
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          I've never encountered another human being where I thought them wanting to feel like a victim could be a reasonable explanation for any of their behavior.
          Some people want to play the victim, but that is completely different.

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        I agree with that but denying that a huge portion of the interest comes from anti-Muslim anti-Jewish sentiment is just ridiculous.

        As with most things, you can see the contradiction by looking at a related phenonemon, and gauging the amount of public outrage about that. Are people outraged about girls having their ears unconsentingly pierced by their parents?