Ford is chasing :melon-musk: 's business model and doing an end-run around their hordes of loyal car dealership minions. Blood in the fucking water.

  • Mother [any]
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    I think universal healthcare polls high even with republicans

    The real material benefit would be impossible to overcome by propaganda in my view

    Edit: 46% approval with republicans

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      One key thing polls don't explicitly tell you about M4A is that the demographic most opposed to it are those aged >65 - the overwhelming majority of whom are on Medicare! And their opposition isn't because they think Medicare sucks. They love it, it's just straight up pulling the ladder up behind them. So while yeah their votes count I personally discount anyone's opinion who is against M4A but is on Medicare when I'm trying to gauge how "popular" the idea is out in society.

      So what this does is, that 46% of Republicans who like M4A... it's actually probably a solid majority who like it when you adjust out the boomers who think it's a "big government handout" but are still all too happy to accept it for themselves.

      • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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        2 years ago

        though at this point I think we should be pushing for and only accept a fully nationalized healthcare system like the Beveridge Model/NHS. Doing single payer at this stage of capitalism is basically cutting medical capitalists a blank check to defraud the government (and people) since regulatory power is so weak.

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I agree, I say "M4A" sort of interchangeably with "universal healthcare" like the NHS, even though they're different.

      • Mother [any]
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        2 years ago

        Why can’t those fuckers just die already

        Too bad gen x isn’t much better

        • star_wraith [he/him]
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          Gen-X was the last generation that was pumped with straight up lies about how universal health care works in other countries. I was just a kid at the time, but in the 90s before the internet really took off, Americans were told in Europe you had to wait months to see any doctor, that every country with universal health care has "death panels", and that it's so expensive that it's bankrupting the countries that try it.

          Anyone raised on the internet now can see how bullshit these arguments are. People know how absolutely shit private health care is, and I don't even think capital tries to convince them otherwise anymore. They just use their instruments of control (politicians, laws, courts) to ensure we never get universal health care, despite how popular it is.

          Not endorsing electoralism and I generally think third parties are a bad idea, but given how popular M4A is and how important health care is, I wonder if a third party that was all about this single issue - literally just call it the M4A party - might have some success.

          • Mother [any]
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            2 years ago

            If Bernie wasn’t a fucking coward he would have run independent with that strategy after getting screwed by the DNC, basically suicide vest the democrats until they move left