you think i don’t know about the continuation war?
i don't know what you do or don't know. I just know you didn't bring it up in your now-deleted comment. Wish I had quoted it so the context that started this conversation was still there.
And if only there was some reason they helped the nazis.
There's never a justifiable reason to help the nazis. This is the same bullshit people use to excuse the Banderites of West Ukraine.
They didn't just "help the nazis" as some kind of pragmatic anti-Soviet move, they actively joined SS regiments and participated in pogroms and atrocities, just like the Banderites did in Ukraine. What was the whole reason the USSR invaded Finland in the Winter War anyway? Oh, that's right, they were going around to everyone in Europe throughout the 30s, trying to form anti-fascist alliances, and wouldn't you know, all the states outside of the USSR rejected that because they hated communism more than they hated fascism. Stalin simply wanted to cut off the corridor that the nazis would eventually use in operation barbarossa, and the Finnish wouldn't allow it .The Soviet Union needed strategic security from the German fascists. They were negotiating to rent some small pieces of land to be able to close the Gulf of Finland to enemy naval forces in the event of war (to protect Leningrad, one of the most important cities in the USSR). The Soviets also needed the border near Leningrad itself to be moved outside of the artillery range. In exchange for a total of 2700km² the Soviets offered 5500km². A good deal, but not good enough for the fascist sympathizer government of Finland, of course, who refused and took a hostile stance against the Soviet Union. Eventually there was a build up of troops at the border near Leningrad and shells were fired into Soviet territory. This led to a costly war that the Soviets eventually won and in peace demanded essentially what they had asked for before the war.
Yes the winter war was fucked but it doesn't excuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Karelian_concentration_camps
East Karelian concentration camps were a set of concentration camps operated by the Finnish government in the areas of the Soviet Union occupied by the Finnish military administration during the Continuation War. These camps were organized by the armed forces supreme commander Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim.[1] The camps were intended to hold camp detainees for future exchange with the Finnic population from the rest of Russia. The mortality rate of civilians in the camps was high due to famine and disease: by some estimates, 4279 civilians died in these camps, meaning a rough mortality rate of 17%.[2]
you think i don't know about the continuation war? And if only there was some reason they helped the nazis.
i don't know what you do or don't know. I just know you didn't bring it up in your now-deleted comment. Wish I had quoted it so the context that started this conversation was still there.
There's never a justifiable reason to help the nazis. This is the same bullshit people use to excuse the Banderites of West Ukraine.
They didn't just "help the nazis" as some kind of pragmatic anti-Soviet move, they actively joined SS regiments and participated in pogroms and atrocities, just like the Banderites did in Ukraine. What was the whole reason the USSR invaded Finland in the Winter War anyway? Oh, that's right, they were going around to everyone in Europe throughout the 30s, trying to form anti-fascist alliances, and wouldn't you know, all the states outside of the USSR rejected that because they hated communism more than they hated fascism. Stalin simply wanted to cut off the corridor that the nazis would eventually use in operation barbarossa, and the Finnish wouldn't allow it .The Soviet Union needed strategic security from the German fascists. They were negotiating to rent some small pieces of land to be able to close the Gulf of Finland to enemy naval forces in the event of war (to protect Leningrad, one of the most important cities in the USSR). The Soviets also needed the border near Leningrad itself to be moved outside of the artillery range. In exchange for a total of 2700km² the Soviets offered 5500km². A good deal, but not good enough for the fascist sympathizer government of Finland, of course, who refused and took a hostile stance against the Soviet Union. Eventually there was a build up of troops at the border near Leningrad and shells were fired into Soviet territory. This led to a costly war that the Soviets eventually won and in peace demanded essentially what they had asked for before the war.
I deleted my comment because i didn't feel like getting in an argument.
That's certainly understandable.
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Absolutely love how checking the source on this leads to a dead link, Wikipedia really showing their standards of qualíty again.
Yes the winter war was fucked but it doesn't excuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Karelian_concentration_camps
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