this may induce :some-controversy: but we can all agree his accent is :chefs-kiss:

  • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Please tell tell that to the woman cradling her dead husband that actually it's good he had to die because wouldn't she rather live in a multipolar world? And that if she doesn't like it, all she has to do is simply overthrow her own government

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Please tell that to the woman cradling her dead husband that actually it's good he had to die because wouldn't she rather live in a socialist nation? And that if she doesn't like it, all she has to do is simply not marry a policeman.

      World historical progress is violent and turbulent and your anecdotal moralism is arbitrary.

      Not one of the "reactionary putinists" on this site that are supposedly pro-Putin are in favor of civilian casualties. We want the war to end as soon as possible, and the way that happens is decisive Russian victory. NATO shouldn't have started this war, but Russia has to finish it. Just like it finished the NATO-started Syrian war. Just like it finished the NATO-started Kazak and Belarus Coups.

      • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        So, just to be clear, Haz, you are for the invasion war special military operation, think it is good that Russia invaded, and that the civilian casualties are a necessary evil in order to midly inconvenience the US and NATO who are getting the biggest boon to their self-propagation from this mess?

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          The war started in 2014 when NATO threw a coup and installed fascists and started military buildup and killed all the leftists and russian speakers. 14,000 dead in the Donbass. 8 years of broken agreements and western lies and fascist paramilitary banditry. Russia should have gone in and wiped out the junta in 2014, but they were not yet sanction proof.

          I am for Russia ending this junta and liberating Ukraine from western puppetry. I am for destroying a fascist forward base of the hegemonic world empire yes. You aren't westoid? What kind of solidarity with China and DPRK and Venezuela is that? They've all made the correct stances quite clear.

          I am not Haz, you are an arrogant little westoid shit.

          • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Thank you for being honest. My stance is very simple: Ukraine, Russia and the US are right wing, Conservative, reactionary nationalist regimes dominated by imperialism and a slavish devotion to neoliberal practices. All have categorically rejected communism in its entirety. There is no solidarity to be found for their governments. Russia has rejected the class struggle, as has Ukraine and the USA. There is no question that NATO had a hand in restarting hostilities beyond what had been agreed by the Minsk treaty.

            I do not see a grand repolarization and damage to the US's reputation from this. Hell, NATO just expanded a little bit more with Sweden and Finland joining. Russia has no clear path for "liberation" of Ukraine, they do not have the military means to institute a capitulation of the Ukrainian state, let alone an occupation, let alone "denazification" for fucks sake. They can't even occupy the country, they sure as shit aren't gonna go house to house dragging them out of their beds. They lost the momentum, and the most they can do right now is hold on to their gains, and inch across while suing for peace. Ukraine has chosen the maximalist, revanchist, irredentist line, at the behest of NATO, because if they don't Zelensky is probably as good as dead. In the meantime, I assure you that an invasion by a foreign power is the guaranteed surefire way to breed at least two to three generations of even more rabid nazis than what where created in 2014. Russia has no plan for dealing with that. So they've actually helped increase the already very large number of nazis, killed a couple in Mariupol, and in the meantime helped engineer another economic and food crisis in the global south by affecting Ukrainian food exports. I'm sure Yemen will also be a necessary casualty for the grand realignment.

            • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Sweden and Finland haven't yet joined, they are being vetoed by Turkey who is making extreme nationalist demands and causing fractures within NATO. The Western economies are near collapse, with skyrocketing food and energy prices, an incoming recession, supply chain shortages & record breaking inflation all occurring at once. The US core will fair slightly better as European capital is going to flee to the US and European enterprise will be scrapped and sold for cheap. What's left of European social democracies will be slurped up by the US to compensate for capitalist crisis noted before.

              Your idealist, moralist categorizations are naive and non pragmatic. Who cares if Russia is rightwing internally if their global actions are that of an ally to all AES states & a counter to the single monopoly imperialist, the anglo-American empire that has dominated freely the last 40 years. China agrees with me. DPRK agrees with me. Venezuela agrees with me. None of them sanction or denounce Russia, all support or quietly back them as they smash the NATO advance. Just like they smashed the NATO jihadist insurgency in Syria. Deal with it imperialist, Russia is acting anti-imperialistically and however your emotions make you squeamish they are the only ally China has got and if Russia falters then China will too.|

              The world will only free itself from US dollar dominance, the IMF & other anglo-american imperiaist forces by violent struggle. It's not going to be morally clean, it never is. But I fully support an ally to all socialists destroying fascists who are put in power to attack them by imperialists, don't you?

          • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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            3 years ago

            Can you explain how Russia was not sanction-proof in 2014 but is now? Because it does sound interesting.

    • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Damn, your moralistic idealism changed my mind. I will now sit and wait around until a bloodless, non-violent revolution with no flaws occurs while wagging my finger at anyone who steps out of line.

      • Straight_Depth [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        You are correct, sorry. I now fully support United Russia and how they sat with their thumbs up their ass while Azerbaijan ethnically cleansed Nagorno-Karabakh of Armenians on Russia's doorstep (because it was anti imperialist).

        Top down military operations with zero class character are good, actually. I love inching closer to nuclear war in order to make NATO stronger than ever, and this is actually just like a grand proletarian revolution, if you really think about it

        • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          If Russia intervened in Azerbaijan you would be calling them imperialist invaders. You can’t win with you ultra shits