I know it's a gradual process for most people, but I assume most of you had a decisive moment of "yeah I am no longer a liberal, fuck liberals."

I'll share mine.

Occupy Wall Street. Yeah, I was idealistic enough to really believe in that movement, and more than that, in the idea that it was going somewhere, that there would be a Civil Rights Act style moment of legislative change that would make things seem (emphasis seem) sane again since post-9/11 madness. Again, like I said, liberal at that point.

Then I saw how many useless liberals nodded along to "too big to fail." I saw all the useless liberal comedians and other opinion leaders call for absolutely nothing but spectator smugness. I saw some of the key organizers sell out entirely to the suits, one in particular outright joining Google and then calling for Google's CEO to become an enlightened dictator for life of the United States.

Then I read this.

https://thebaffler.com/latest/mouthbreathing-machiavellis

I finally understood at a gut level how conveniently and easily liberals could become cryptofascists, a term that I didn't even know at the time. I started to see and understand how capitalism under pressure much prefers fascism to even a slight reduction in the rate of the rich becoming richer, no matter what. I learned that the Democratic Party, when it is not being paid opposition, really doesn't stand for anything different than the GOP at a material level except more performative inclusiveness in the corporate police state.

I stopped calling myself a liberal. You can call me a liberal especially if I have a bad take, but at least I stopped identifying with the label intentionally.

What's your story?

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    2020 was what made me realize communists were right about everything. Bernie was the only one who even entertained notions of fighting capital, and the Democratic Party fucking crucified him for it, instead opting to boost a faux-Native Reaganite, a racist bougie Indiana mayor, and a cop who bragged about jailing parents. All of these candidates proved to be substanceless as the nomination went to Biden, a barely-functional shambling corpse whose only promise that mattered was "fundamentally, nothing will change." All around me, liberals responded to this by gushing about how presidential he was and calling him the next FDR, while at the same time screaming that all of America's ills were the result of manipulation by the sinister Russians.

    I'd been tuned into politics since the Iraq War, so I really should've learned sooner. Better late than never, I suppose.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I’d been tuned into politics since the Iraq War

      Which one? :chomsky-yes-honey: