The Texas GOP's platform calls for a referendum so Texans can vote on "whether or not the State of Texas should reassert its status as an independent nation."
Hello I'm Texan and there's no practical base of support for a secession movement, because the only people who care are weird suburban chuds who want a white ethnostate. The sentient blobs of oil that comprise Texan capitalists would hate secession and would immediately leave. There's no way they want to lose access to interstate highway systems or all those tax subsidies. There's no way they want to lose American passports or the amount of trade going through the port of Houston and Port Arthur.
Enforcing secession wouldn't work either because yeah, it's inherently a white ethnostate project. Good luck doing that where the plurality of people are hispanic.
Complete pipedream that would collapse within a month. Best part is if Texas did this we'd have to institute an income tax to fund even the bare minimum of water treatment and agriculture without all those sweet federal subsidies. I say let them go for it. It would be a funny month before the theocratic white supremacist Texas sheepishly asks to be annexed because the public funds ran dry.
I feel like you are not cynical enough and are not considering 1) 2016 showed us that that hooting chud base has seized control of the gop, 2) voter suppression, 3) a certain subset of the latino demographic being really into the GOP especially the anti-abortion plank 4) a subset of native-born latinos being really fucking racist towards indigenous people and Central Americans, and 5) latinos being allowed to pass for white when it suits white supremacy's goals
a subset of native-born latinos being really fucking racist towards indigenous people and Central Americans
No where near enough and a significant chunk of those are on the border and reliant on the trade and patronage of rich Mexicans or federal law enforcement jobs
latinos being allowed to pass for white when it suits white supremacy’s goal
The White Supremacist project isn't nearly coherent enough for the border Latinos to go along with. East Texas and South Texas are complete different worlds
I'm skeptical about the hooting chuds enacting any sort of coherent structured plan like secession. They don't do plans. They take money from the public and then run because they're all hucksters. The only direction they have is atomization and secession would require a massive redirection of funds and resources I don't believe they have the wits nor energy to commit towards.
Yeah, there is a worrying amount of latino Americans being swayed into weird blood and soil white nationalism, especially the more distant they are to an immigrant heritage. It kind of reminds me of how the children of Irish immigrants all became cops. I'm not sure how this particular thing will shake out, because a disproportionate amount of latinos are still impoverished or in prison. It also depends on where they live. Suburbanites in east Texas aren't necessarily being swayed the same as people out west.
brexit was a referendum to do a legal separation of an already sovereign country from an international political union. There were already protocols written in place for it to happen in the EU's constitution. The British chuds couldn't even do it right, because they had to keep delaying it for like 5 years, right?
Texas secession would be an illegal separation of a territory whose government is a silly marionette show for oil companies and real estate grifters. The most organized group in the state is Joel Osteen's church. Texan secessionists even if they succeeded would be under immediate embargo and debt from the remaining USA and probably a bunch of other countries who would refuse to recognize the country's sovereignty. It would be a silly cartoon race to see who can put their puppet dictator into power first.
Texas sheepishly asks to be annexed because the public funds ran dry.
isn't this basically what happened last time Texas was "independent"? they only held off as long as they did by selling off parts of the "republic" to the Feds for cash, which they almost immediately squandered.
Polk's whole plan in Texas was to gobble it up following secession. The military advisors and politicos he sent down there during and after the rebellion hijacked the government. They deliberately carved up and sold off the country as planned.
Hello I'm Texan and there's no practical base of support for a secession movement, because the only people who care are weird suburban chuds who want a white ethnostate. The sentient blobs of oil that comprise Texan capitalists would hate secession and would immediately leave. There's no way they want to lose access to interstate highway systems or all those tax subsidies. There's no way they want to lose American passports or the amount of trade going through the port of Houston and Port Arthur.
Enforcing secession wouldn't work either because yeah, it's inherently a white ethnostate project. Good luck doing that where the plurality of people are hispanic.
Complete pipedream that would collapse within a month. Best part is if Texas did this we'd have to institute an income tax to fund even the bare minimum of water treatment and agriculture without all those sweet federal subsidies. I say let them go for it. It would be a funny month before the theocratic white supremacist Texas sheepishly asks to be annexed because the public funds ran dry.
I feel like you are not cynical enough and are not considering 1) 2016 showed us that that hooting chud base has seized control of the gop, 2) voter suppression, 3) a certain subset of the latino demographic being really into the GOP especially the anti-abortion plank 4) a subset of native-born latinos being really fucking racist towards indigenous people and Central Americans, and 5) latinos being allowed to pass for white when it suits white supremacy's goals
No where near enough and a significant chunk of those are on the border and reliant on the trade and patronage of rich Mexicans or federal law enforcement jobs
The White Supremacist project isn't nearly coherent enough for the border Latinos to go along with. East Texas and South Texas are complete different worlds
I'm skeptical about the hooting chuds enacting any sort of coherent structured plan like secession. They don't do plans. They take money from the public and then run because they're all hucksters. The only direction they have is atomization and secession would require a massive redirection of funds and resources I don't believe they have the wits nor energy to commit towards.
Yeah, there is a worrying amount of latino Americans being swayed into weird blood and soil white nationalism, especially the more distant they are to an immigrant heritage. It kind of reminds me of how the children of Irish immigrants all became cops. I'm not sure how this particular thing will shake out, because a disproportionate amount of latinos are still impoverished or in prison. It also depends on where they live. Suburbanites in east Texas aren't necessarily being swayed the same as people out west.
But what about Brexit? :british-maw:
i mean there's got to be a difference
brexit was a referendum to do a legal separation of an already sovereign country from an international political union. There were already protocols written in place for it to happen in the EU's constitution. The British chuds couldn't even do it right, because they had to keep delaying it for like 5 years, right?
Texas secession would be an illegal separation of a territory whose government is a silly marionette show for oil companies and real estate grifters. The most organized group in the state is Joel Osteen's church. Texan secessionists even if they succeeded would be under immediate embargo and debt from the remaining USA and probably a bunch of other countries who would refuse to recognize the country's sovereignty. It would be a silly cartoon race to see who can put their puppet dictator into power first.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying that underestimating how batshit insane conservatives can get tends to lead to disappointment.
isn't this basically what happened last time Texas was "independent"? they only held off as long as they did by selling off parts of the "republic" to the Feds for cash, which they almost immediately squandered.
Not a bug, but a feature.
Polk's whole plan in Texas was to gobble it up following secession. The military advisors and politicos he sent down there during and after the rebellion hijacked the government. They deliberately carved up and sold off the country as planned.
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Do not underestimate what a decade of "muh sovereignty" media can do to the population.
Have you considered Edgelords-Per-Capita