in moments of extreme sectarianism, like 1850s up to the civil war, the United States saw the formation of pretty radical and ideological driven parties. While most didn't see much electoral success and were usually regional when they did they still did a lot to increase nation tensions and gave abolitionists space to agitate.
like yeah this succdem third party probably wouldn't be viable if we are just talking about electoral success. But I think there is potential for them as organizational vehicle for non-electorial activities. There's obviously a split in the democratic party, I think it would only benefit the "left-wing" (lol) to free themselves of the rotting corpse of the democratic party. Maybe wait until the economic crash and trump 2024.
When I start feeling down about the prospects for third party success, I just think about how it was literally illegal to be part of a union before 1935 in the US... but people did it anyways and they had scary MFs like the Pinkertons to contend with the whole time.
The dems will never be a left of center party and a socialist party could never meaningfully opperate in the way and capacity it should as a subparty under the umbrela of the third most antisocialist party of modern history (after Nazis and the GoP)
In the US, changing your vote to your second choice is a federal crime instead of a built-in option on the ballot. Third parties are de facto illegal.
If someone is going to do electoralism the only choices are A: Entryism and B: once in a century party change from one duopoly to another
Entryism can include treating something like the DSA as its own sub-party underneath the umbrella of the one and only left of center party
in moments of extreme sectarianism, like 1850s up to the civil war, the United States saw the formation of pretty radical and ideological driven parties. While most didn't see much electoral success and were usually regional when they did they still did a lot to increase nation tensions and gave abolitionists space to agitate.
like yeah this succdem third party probably wouldn't be viable if we are just talking about electoral success. But I think there is potential for them as organizational vehicle for non-electorial activities. There's obviously a split in the democratic party, I think it would only benefit the "left-wing" (lol) to free themselves of the rotting corpse of the democratic party. Maybe wait until the economic crash and trump 2024.
When I start feeling down about the prospects for third party success, I just think about how it was literally illegal to be part of a union before 1935 in the US... but people did it anyways and they had scary MFs like the Pinkertons to contend with the whole time.
The dems will never be a left of center party and a socialist party could never meaningfully opperate in the way and capacity it should as a subparty under the umbrela of the third most antisocialist party of modern history (after Nazis and the GoP)