• ProfessionalSlacker
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      He's joking in the sense that he's using a tongue-in-cheek pop culture reference to make his point, like Colbert calling Putin "Voldemort," but he's been genuinely arguing that it's lib to care about the EPA having it's regulatory power taken away.

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, sounds like the kind of contrarian take he'd have, even though I'm still kind of surprised by it.

        • ProfessionalSlacker
          hexagon
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          2 years ago

          Shouldn't be surprising frankly. All these podcasters are gaping assholes who will throw together a word salad of Marxist terms to explain why their knee-jerk reaction to any conflict is "libs bad."

          • jabrd [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            I think it’s simpler and dumber than that. They’re experiencing the same ratchet effect the Republican Party is experiencing with their base. Being a lunatic/having spicy takes is what put them on the map but to maintain that position they have to keep upping the ante or someone else will so they become hatred/idiocy mills where they’re just throwing shit at the wall because it’s all they know how to do and - to be fair - it’s been working for them so far

            • Abraxiel
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              2 years ago

              Nah, this is pretty consistent with his general worldview. We were never going to be able to rely on the EPA to deal with the climate crisis. That shouldn't be controversial. What he's saying then is that rather than mourning the gutting of the agency or clamoring for its teeth to be reinstalled, we need to do what we've always needed to do and use workers' self-organization to develop ourselves into a real political force that can accomplish things.

    • VHS [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      he really is anti-EPA, though.

    • build_a_bear_group [he/him, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      The lead up to that punchline was pretty explicit. He is saying that while, in a vacuum, the removal of the EPA is bad. We already needed major organization and class power to save the planet, and the EPA was never going to cut it on its own. So any "leftist" focusing on maintaining or bringing back the EPA is equivalent to libs saying VOTE!

      • ProfessionalSlacker
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        It's amazing how knee-jerk opposition to "vote blue no matter who" Dems has developed into idealist crap about not investing in bettering our conditions if it isn't an explicitly revolutionary program. Might as well just ditch supporting unions while we are at it.