I have a leftist friend who's a historian writing a paper on how the right is so successful at organizing and why the left sucks at it. Trying to help them gather sources. The more scholary the better.

She's particularly looking at right wing paramilitary organizations (proud boys, 3%s ect) And why the left has trouble forming their own.

Edit: question might have been a bit ambiguous, we all know a lot of the basic reasons for this, what I need is the type of thing that can be used for an academic research paper. Interesting discussion is still good though so have at it.

  • Ithorian [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    She's particularly looking at right wing paramilitary organizations (proud boys, 3%s ect) And why the left has trouble forming them) I'll edit my post to add that.

    • DengXixian [he/him]
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      Oh. That’s entirely COINTELPRO shit. Those groups just get murdered, eradicated, and infiltrated.

      The federal government waged a two decades long war against groups like the blank panther party. In many ways, the mechanisms of that program remain today in the ongoing “war on drugs” and mass carceral system

    • ElGosso [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I know the FBI has a website somewhere where you can search every document they've released due to FOIA, just plug in "Black Panthers" and see what comes out :fred-hampton:

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I think it's important to note that the FBI loves infiltrating and propagating these groups, getting them large enough to 'bag' for political points with liberals. It's a very different strategy than with the left, where they generally tend to seek to cause division and uncertainty. I think it is easier for them to cause division because leftists are already wary of cops, so it is easy to sow mistrust, whereas it is alot easier to do big 'bag and tag' operations with right wing groups, because they trust so easily. I mean, multiple leaders of the Proud Boys have been found to be FBI informants. The issue now is that it has started to get out of hand and past where they have control over it, imo. Or it could be them pushing for more radicalization among the right-wing, or they could be becoming radicalized themselves. There are lots of options going on here, and it is likely a mix of everything.

      • Dingus_Khan [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        The issue now is that it has started to get out of hand and past where they have control over it

        Well shit does that sound familiar

    • DinosaurThussy [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      If she’s looking for structural differences between the orgs, that document where the FBI stated they had trouble infiltrating decentralized organizations might be worth a read. My guess is it’s less about the structure of the group and more about external suppression, but there might be something to be said about the idea that right-wing groups are pathologically hierarchical. You can infiltrate a group of 7 guys and they’ll all have ranks