Like if you push most of these people they will end up incoherently describing something like Titoism or Dengism on paper with more co-ops but without the leninist and centralized state features that made them viable and with a parliamentary liberal democracy instead
If they realized that the only way market socialism can work as a transitionary period is through a birdcage economy (chinese term) requiring the central planning (cage) and basicaly an one party communist governing structure (cage owner) restricting ,guiding and standing above the market AND media (birds) they would be in shambles. Being able to be as hands on or hands off as they like across different aspects of the market economy but being able to intervene decisively and from a PoV not subservient to capital . Other wise you either just end up socdem or straight up fail and get completely taken over the the whims of capital and the market towards their own ends.
TLDR: Only a leninist state can chose to successfully be market socialist
Like if you push most of these people they will end up incoherently describing something like Titoism or Dengism on paper with more co-ops but without the leninist and centralized state features that made them viable and with a parliamentary liberal democracy instead
If they realized that the only way market socialism can work as a transitionary period is through a birdcage economy (chinese term) requiring the central planning (cage) and basicaly an one party communist governing structure (cage owner) restricting ,guiding and standing above the market AND media (birds) they would be in shambles. Being able to be as hands on or hands off as they like across different aspects of the market economy but being able to intervene decisively and from a PoV not subservient to capital . Other wise you either just end up socdem or straight up fail and get completely taken over the the whims of capital and the market towards their own ends.
TLDR: Only a leninist state can chose to successfully be market socialist