I'm not trying to be a asshole, i'm just trying to be direct. I think its pretty self evident this would be the default line even if McCain's account was 100% accurate (which I agree it probably isn't).
This could also indicate the meals sucked and prisoners slept on the floor etc. A longer interview with Tran could reveal if he considers stress positions, sleep deprivation, beatings, solitary confinement etc. to be torture. McCain was a careerist, war criminal who has a shit record on opposing torture despite his pr to the contrary. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was tortured, but it isn’t my default assumption to take what he says at face value.
No doubt: McCain was 100% a shit bag and a warmonger. That's not in dispute. And again: uncritical support to our comrades in Vietnam and death to America. The amount of pain and suffering we caused there makes whatever happened to POWs pale in comparison. I also think its pretty plausible given what seems to be the all too common reality of war that he was subject to torture and I don't know how I feel about the confident assertion that "he lied" about it.
I'm not trying to be a asshole, i'm just trying to be direct. I think its pretty self evident this would be the default line even if McCain's account was 100% accurate (which I agree it probably isn't).
No doubt: McCain was 100% a shit bag and a warmonger. That's not in dispute. And again: uncritical support to our comrades in Vietnam and death to America. The amount of pain and suffering we caused there makes whatever happened to POWs pale in comparison. I also think its pretty plausible given what seems to be the all too common reality of war that he was subject to torture and I don't know how I feel about the confident assertion that "he lied" about it.