Being alone and living alone with no partner are two different things. Isolation is a poison, but companionship doesn't have to take the specific form of romance or cohabitation.
I didn't think you were, and I'm not trying to say that anyone's inability to access what they want want in life - such as a nuclear family - isn't a real problem for them. I'm a noob who hasn't looked at your profile, so I haven't read about your situation.
What I'm talking about is more specific to incel culture. They push each other to seek out women, as well as to hate them. If unsuccessful, the blame falls on the targeted woman. If successful, a toxic household is achieved 🎉
This probably doesn't apply to you or your situation, but in the context of Jordan Peterson I think that a vital piece of keeping the fans lonely and hurting is to tie their self-worth to romantic relationships.
I’m a noob who hasn’t looked at your profile, so I haven’t read about your situation.
That is fair & I have probably been to hostile to you & some others in this thread.
What I think is that I need to stop engaging with these kinds of posts & the threads that they spawn because all they do is make me self-conscious & mad at people.
you can just have friends the idea that the only meaningful relationships have to be romantic is a big part of why these people are the way that they are
you know what some of mine yeah I'd be confident in that to an extent. There's also family of course.
Romantic partners can't always be relied upon completely as well
of course if you and your friends and family take the view that the only meaningful relationships are romantic then that's something of a self fulfilling prophecy isn't it as you'll proceed to prioritise your romantic relationships over all others
I don't want to do either if anything I think the idea that romantic relationships are the only ones puts too much pressure on them causing them to be unduly strained.
it is though. there's nothing wrong with living alone and not having a romantic partner.
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Being alone and living alone with no partner are two different things. Isolation is a poison, but companionship doesn't have to take the specific form of romance or cohabitation.
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I didn't think you were, and I'm not trying to say that anyone's inability to access what they want want in life - such as a nuclear family - isn't a real problem for them. I'm a noob who hasn't looked at your profile, so I haven't read about your situation.
What I'm talking about is more specific to incel culture. They push each other to seek out women, as well as to hate them. If unsuccessful, the blame falls on the targeted woman. If successful, a toxic household is achieved 🎉
This probably doesn't apply to you or your situation, but in the context of Jordan Peterson I think that a vital piece of keeping the fans lonely and hurting is to tie their self-worth to romantic relationships.
That is fair & I have probably been to hostile to you & some others in this thread.
What I think is that I need to stop engaging with these kinds of posts & the threads that they spawn because all they do is make me self-conscious & mad at people.
That's okay, it happens. This subject's a really gnarly one in the first place.
Speaking as someone who sometimes-successfully tries to avoid particular topics, there are times when it can be pretty helpful
you can just have friends the idea that the only meaningful relationships have to be romantic is a big part of why these people are the way that they are
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you know what some of mine yeah I'd be confident in that to an extent. There's also family of course.
Romantic partners can't always be relied upon completely as well
of course if you and your friends and family take the view that the only meaningful relationships are romantic then that's something of a self fulfilling prophecy isn't it as you'll proceed to prioritise your romantic relationships over all others
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well that doesn't work as romantic partners are often your own age. It's not like everyone can physically have kids either.
Plus I've known guys who's wife left as soon as things got tough and vice versa
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woah what brought this on.
I get angry when I believe people want to hurt me, or keep me isolated.
I don't want to do either if anything I think the idea that romantic relationships are the only ones puts too much pressure on them causing them to be unduly strained.