My partner and I had very different upbringings and are reaching the age and level of stability where we want to take our kids places sometimes when they have breaks from school. But we’re having trouble agreeing on things to do and I’d like some novel ideas.

I grew up in a rural suburbia. I have half a dozen adopted siblings, all at least 5 years younger than me. The neighborhood was nothing but retired people and us, which meant we were the only kids on the street. So I ended up in more of a babysitter role than a sibling role a lot of the time. And my parents took us on vacations to amusement parks and even a cruise once, but they worked themselves to the bone to do so and we rarely saw them. When they did have free time at home they turned on the TV and veg’ed out because they were exhausted. And even then, I was poorer than most of my friends, but in the kind of way where their parents spoiled them with the latest video game shit and always gave them money to go to the movies and mine didn’t. Overall, I had it very good. I was lonely, but taken care of.

My partner, on the other hand, was regularly food insecure or living without running water or electricity. They did not travel more than a couple times in their childhood and usually it was because other family was paying for stuff. But they went to the same school as me. So whatever shame I felt for not fitting the bougie standards, they had it significantly worse. They worked significantly harder than they should have had to to escape the poverty they were raised in and now they basically want a taste of middle class life. And sometimes I just hate it.

I feel so bad, but middle class life is such a facade of treats with no substance. Unless your family owns a business or some shit, it’s just sacrificing connection for spectacle because the alternative is sinking down into poverty traps. I’d be happy if I never went to another amusement park in my life. It’s all a fucking trap. They’re the same no matter where you are and they’re just tourist traps all around. I don’t have any concrete memories from them. I just have pictures and I know that I like the tilt-o-whirl and fried dough.

My partner wants to take the kids to Disney. I am literally repulsed by the idea. It would be a little tight, but we could afford it. But we just get so little time with our kids as-is, that I want our family time to be spent doing stuff constructive or engaging, not this hyper-capitalist spectacle. I would love to do site-seeing, but our kids are too young (both under 10).

If I can’t think of a good alternative, we’ll probably go to Disney and it’ll be what it is. I’m not gonna be grumpy the whole time about it and ruin it. But my partner is also open to other ideas for stuff to do. I just never did anything else, so it feels like I literally don’t know how to spend quality time with family. I’m also trying to be really conscientious about not dumping all this on my partner and making them feel bad about wanting to do fun stuff with the kids. Thoughts?

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Gonna post some obvious alternatives here (feasibility depends largely on where you are located):

    Yosemite
    Tahoe
    Zion National Park
    Pinnacles (basically discount Zion)

    If you go to Yosemite the tent cabins are cheap and a great happy medium between a cabin and just roughing it.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        It sure is. Some of my best memories are from there. Once got to see a black bear and her cubs and it's one of the coolest things I have ever seen.

        It's much better in winter though when there's less people, lots of snow, and way more likely to see wildlife.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            2 years ago

            That reminds me Big Sur and Henry Cowell are also really awesome. Some of the last living old growth forest in California.

            And yeah that's why I recommend Yosemite in the winter. The outdoor ice skating rink is also really cool.

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                2 years ago

                lmao I forgot about the Boardwalk and I grew up there. Definitely a great place for a well rounded vacation. Also up in the valley there's a place called Fall Creek where you can see old ruins of logging operations and lime kilns.

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      2 years ago

      Huge +1 from me, I'd add red rock canyon to the list too. IIRC some of those places have things like horse or mule tours that are really fun too, and ok for kids unless they're super young.

      I had a semi bougie childhood but the nature-y vacations we went on still stand out as being the best and most memorable (better than theme parks for sure)

      • BerserkPoster [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        For sure nature stuff is great for kids. Inspires a want for conservation, great excercise, they learn to appreciate the beauty of the natural world. Also, very little lines

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        horse or mule tours that are really fun too, and ok for kids unless they’re super young

        In Baja you can rent horses and just ride them on the beach and that was fun as hell.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If it's a longer trip where you're hitting multiple places, national parks also give you the ability to save money by alternating between nicer accommodations and whatever level of roughing it you're comfortable with. Do something pretty spare and cheap for a day or two, then do something a bit nicer.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah Pinnacles is great for day trips, Yosemite is better enjoyed in longer stretches since there's so much amazing shit to see.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah I definitely feel privileged to have grown up in central California. I really want to visit Africa some day though, my grandfather went there during is time in the military in WWII and he said Kenya was the most beautiful place he had ever seen.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah it really is amazing. Lots of beautiful places in Africa for sure.

          This is just South Africa, but the Kruger national park, Pilanesberg, etc are beautiful and you can see the big 5. The Pilanesberg is basically one massive old volcano that's a wildlife park with some lakes inside it. Then there's all the mountains in the Drakensberg, the South Coast and East Coast. And the valleys and forests in Mpumalanga. That's just what I've seen, I haven't even been to the west of South Africa.

          I want to visit Cape Town (lol I know super basic), just because apparently it's cool and table mountain of course. And the Karoo in the Northern Cape along with the cost, sand dunes right up to the beach. I think the Grand tour Amazon show with the top gear people did a special in that area of Namibia and South Africa.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      And if you go to Zion, Capitol Reef is nearby and IMO is kind of a hidden gem. Not crowded at all and very cool sites to see.