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    • Babs [she/her]
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      8 months ago

      This one's my favorite

      Kadiivka (Ukrainian: Кадіївка) or Stakhanov (Russian: Стаханов), is a city in Alchevsk Raion, Luhansk Oblast, Donbas, eastern Ukraine. It is located on the Komyshuvakha River, a right tributary of the Luhan.[1] Ukraine renamed the city Kadiivka in 2016, and refers to the city by this name, however Ukraine has not controlled the city since early 2014.[2][3][4]

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kadiivka

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    Oh WOW.

    You're telling me that when the anti-nato segments of the population, Crimea and Donbass, all became no longer part of the data, suddenly it swung towards support?

    Wow. This is incredible. Truly nobody could predict that when you change the data, the result changes. Wow. Truly amazing.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    8 months ago

    What does this even prove though? The point with NATO antagonism is the Russian concerns about NATO being an aggressor towards Russian territory. How their neighbors feel about NATO isn’t the point.

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    More tellingly, of the 30 member states in NATO before 2022, only 6 held democratic referendums before joining. And of those 6, most held democratic referendums during high budget information campaigns urging everyone that it was absolutely necessary to join NATO. NATO was always about maintaining American hegemony over Europe after WW2, because the alternative was Europe going socialist... not because of "Soviet Imperialism" but because of popular support for socialism. Notice how popular support for socialism is always framed as "imperialism" emanating from the largest socialist country, but unpopular enforcement of capitalism is never framed as "imperialism" emanating from the largest capitalist country. Odd.