Yeah, of course, in a communist society where there was no monetary necessity to do so it would be much less problematic, but that doesn’t change the fact that’s it’s still done and still work on top of being rather widespread especially in places where it’s illegal and pushes those people who do it to the fringes of society bc they are now criminals.
Most people who fit into the SWERF category are men (usually in socialist spaces specifically) who don’t consider it work / thinks it’s degrading to do sex work inherently bc of various brainworms and want to tell women what they should and can do with their bodies. And in that case the term is appropriate, for example if you think it’s shameful and should be illegal to run an only fans, you are a swerf. And it’s not such to acknowledge that the industry has a lot of terrible things going on as long as you’re coming from a place of that being the problem and not women (or people of any gender or intentity though it’s overwhelmingly women in practice) being able to choose what they do with their bodies as the issue.
I don’t think China is necessarily completely wrong for banning it, but it does push their own people to the fringes of society and that does not seem like something in line w socialism. Obviously it’s classified as a crime but sex work is not inherently wrong (unless you are a bigot), although in practice it often is negative, but, if it was regulated the things that make it in practice so negative for people could be minimized and the workers have more power.
Most people who fit into the SWERF category are men (usually in socialist spaces specifically) who don’t consider it work / thinks it’s degrading to do sex work inherently
and yet they still subscribe to our OnlyFans and have pornhub bookmarked :thonk:
thank you for everything you wrote here, you described my own views perfectly.
:soviet-heart: I’m glad this is one of the few leftist spaces where terf, swerf, etc. shit doesn’t fly. The egregious user should be banned and it will be disappointing if he is not (unless they do some self crit and apologize)
hopefully, they and others with similar views gain some perspective from listening to what you have to say too, and even if they don’t like the idea of it personally, hopefully they learn to genuinely respect sex workers and treat them with the full dignity a comrades deserves
Yeah, of course, in a communist society where there was no monetary necessity to do so it would be much less problematic, but that doesn’t change the fact that’s it’s still done and still work on top of being rather widespread especially in places where it’s illegal and pushes those people who do it to the fringes of society bc they are now criminals.
Most people who fit into the SWERF category are men (usually in socialist spaces specifically) who don’t consider it work / thinks it’s degrading to do sex work inherently bc of various brainworms and want to tell women what they should and can do with their bodies. And in that case the term is appropriate, for example if you think it’s shameful and should be illegal to run an only fans, you are a swerf. And it’s not such to acknowledge that the industry has a lot of terrible things going on as long as you’re coming from a place of that being the problem and not women (or people of any gender or intentity though it’s overwhelmingly women in practice) being able to choose what they do with their bodies as the issue.
I don’t think China is necessarily completely wrong for banning it, but it does push their own people to the fringes of society and that does not seem like something in line w socialism. Obviously it’s classified as a crime but sex work is not inherently wrong (unless you are a bigot), although in practice it often is negative, but, if it was regulated the things that make it in practice so negative for people could be minimized and the workers have more power.
and yet they still subscribe to our OnlyFans and have pornhub bookmarked :thonk:
thank you for everything you wrote here, you described my own views perfectly.
:soviet-heart: I’m glad this is one of the few leftist spaces where terf, swerf, etc. shit doesn’t fly. The egregious user should be banned and it will be disappointing if he is not (unless they do some self crit and apologize)
hopefully, they and others with similar views gain some perspective from listening to what you have to say too, and even if they don’t like the idea of it personally, hopefully they learn to genuinely respect sex workers and treat them with the full dignity a comrades deserves