I don't understand people who defend twitch streamers generally.
He's just some guy in his basement who is on video for hours putting out poorly researched takes that I could come up with if I were lazy (considering that I heard one of his research streams was reading wikipedia).
PhilosophyTube clearly reads books so I respect her. Vaush doesn't come across as a guy who ever read a book, and I don't read enough books, so why the fuck would I listen to him.
Idk maybe I mellowed out more since I can't even be mad at these online people, just confused at their existence. Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson used to sincerely piss me off but now I just ignore it because there's no point since I don't know anyone who takes him seriously (although I used to know JBP fans)
Lolita is pretty plainly anti-pedo. More than likely, he just got a version of the book with an abominable, sexualized cover and just leaves it on his shelf.
Not if you are stupid enough. It's a book where the narrator definitely tells you what he is doing is normal and good, you have to realize he is lying. If you don't think critically at all, you will just believe him. Vaush and his fans show a lack of critical thinking, so I wouldn't doubt this very easy to pick up on untrustworthy narration would soar over his head like an eagle
Failures of reading comprehension are everywhere, and "le curtains were fucking le blue" takes are also everywhere. No surprise to me that many see Lolita and blue curtain it to fit their own ideology. :kombucha-disgust:
I've said before that V*ush is what you get when you outsource your own self-education to a streamer/influencer.
Self-education through reading is hard and slow. Watchimg a YouTube video, following someone on Twitter, or putting a stream on in the background is easy. Its instant gratification versus the long haul.
You're self-aware about how little you actually know about most things. Very, very few people are like that. Most people who loudly and confidently make their Opinions known are idiots who make up for a real lack of knowledge with supreme self-comfidence in their own innate intelligence. And it can be very easy to believe them if you aren't consciously self-motivated to learn things the hard way.
This is why I love the Deprogram pod so much. It's just guys being dudes making juvenile jokes, but actually knowing what they are talking to and delivering our ideas wrapped in the sort of humor your average person likely engages in with their own friends.
Ancient Greeks were plagued by sophists, who were hacks that were paid fortunes by the rich to teach their failsons how to grift. Such sophists were sometimes stabbed in the streets, and the stabber rarely received legal punishment for it.
they invested time and money into it and are engaged in the chat community and because of that community and parasocial relationship with the streamer that occasionally might engage with them the feeling of temporarily not being alienated ultimately drives them to go to great lengths to double down and defend both bad political positions and just bad human beings who are streaming because they don't want to go back to feeling alone and miserable, which they inevitably will have to go through to just deal with reality. i went through this a while back and unfortunately know IRL people like that and a bunch of unnamed online weirdos like that. the only ones who benefit out this system are the streaming platform owners and the streamers themselves and capitalism certainly promotes the worst types of voices to the top of the pyramid, so its no wonder a bunch of counter-revolutionary fake socialists propped up while the legit communist and anarchist streamers get blocked off the recommended list and banned for silly minor offences all the time, which is not to say many of those don't also have toxic echo-chamber cult-like environments that they maintain but at least some have slightly better modes of analysis and theory and do some research though I'm soured on the concept of petit-borgeous streaming businesses as a way to do anything apart from org fundraising at this point
I don't understand people who defend twitch streamers generally.
He's just some guy in his basement who is on video for hours putting out poorly researched takes that I could come up with if I were lazy (considering that I heard one of his research streams was reading wikipedia).
PhilosophyTube clearly reads books so I respect her. Vaush doesn't come across as a guy who ever read a book, and I don't read enough books, so why the fuck would I listen to him.
Idk maybe I mellowed out more since I can't even be mad at these online people, just confused at their existence. Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson used to sincerely piss me off but now I just ignore it because there's no point since I don't know anyone who takes him seriously (although I used to know JBP fans)
He's read at least one book, lolita
Lolita is pretty plainly anti-pedo. More than likely, he just got a version of the book with an abominable, sexualized cover and just leaves it on his shelf.
Not if you are stupid enough. It's a book where the narrator definitely tells you what he is doing is normal and good, you have to realize he is lying. If you don't think critically at all, you will just believe him. Vaush and his fans show a lack of critical thinking, so I wouldn't doubt this very easy to pick up on untrustworthy narration would soar over his head like an eagle
:so-true: "The curtains are blue!!!"
Exactly
Fair enough
"not if you're stupid enough" LMFAO
Failures of reading comprehension are everywhere, and "le curtains were fucking le blue" takes are also everywhere. No surprise to me that many see Lolita and blue curtain it to fit their own ideology. :kombucha-disgust:
I don't think he's read Lolita, I think he's probably watched lolicon-bait anime though.
I feel like Gigi would be more his speed, it's much shorter
For him, the pros are that she is actually property, but the con is that she has some agency
I've said before that V*ush is what you get when you outsource your own self-education to a streamer/influencer.
Self-education through reading is hard and slow. Watchimg a YouTube video, following someone on Twitter, or putting a stream on in the background is easy. Its instant gratification versus the long haul.
You're self-aware about how little you actually know about most things. Very, very few people are like that. Most people who loudly and confidently make their Opinions known are idiots who make up for a real lack of knowledge with supreme self-comfidence in their own innate intelligence. And it can be very easy to believe them if you aren't consciously self-motivated to learn things the hard way.
:yea:
There are just as many terrible opinions in books as there are on Twitch.
If video, or live presentation, even in the background, gets you to take in info, go for it. Just be careful about what you spend your time taking in.
A lot of :my-hero: fanboys consider themselves le experts on le science just like ELO~N because of osmosis.
Similarly, a lot of :jordan-eboy-peterson: fanboys consider themselves le experts on le... everything. It's baffling in that case.
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This is why I love the Deprogram pod so much. It's just guys being dudes making juvenile jokes, but actually knowing what they are talking to and delivering our ideas wrapped in the sort of humor your average person likely engages in with their own friends.
Ancient Greeks were plagued by sophists, who were hacks that were paid fortunes by the rich to teach their failsons how to grift. Such sophists were sometimes stabbed in the streets, and the stabber rarely received legal punishment for it.
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It's "let people enjoy things" taken to its applicable consequences. :bugs-no:
It isn't even enjoyable.
Like watching someone stick a heroin needle into their eyeballs to try and find a part of themselves that isn't dead.
they invested time and money into it and are engaged in the chat community and because of that community and parasocial relationship with the streamer that occasionally might engage with them the feeling of temporarily not being alienated ultimately drives them to go to great lengths to double down and defend both bad political positions and just bad human beings who are streaming because they don't want to go back to feeling alone and miserable, which they inevitably will have to go through to just deal with reality. i went through this a while back and unfortunately know IRL people like that and a bunch of unnamed online weirdos like that. the only ones who benefit out this system are the streaming platform owners and the streamers themselves and capitalism certainly promotes the worst types of voices to the top of the pyramid, so its no wonder a bunch of counter-revolutionary fake socialists propped up while the legit communist and anarchist streamers get blocked off the recommended list and banned for silly minor offences all the time, which is not to say many of those don't also have toxic echo-chamber cult-like environments that they maintain but at least some have slightly better modes of analysis and theory and do some research though I'm soured on the concept of petit-borgeous streaming businesses as a way to do anything apart from org fundraising at this point