What does it mean for workers to collectively own means of production? Am I supposed to own only the laboratory I work at or everything everywhere? What if I decide to change a place of employment? Why doesn't owning it though the intermediary of the state and your representative in the communist party qualify?

  • rubpoll [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    They were / are states ruled by communist parties, who do what they can to steer things toward communism. The fact that there isn't a magic communism button they can push overnight doesn't mean they're lying about their ideology or something.

    • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Lots of people think you just have a revolution, and then you just kind of "have communism" once you've done the revolution part.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        yeah so what you want to do is immediately after a revolution which destabalised everything have everyone settle down into a perfect society with no pushback, or logistical and/or organisational issues.

        Also all the supporters of the old regime should be armed and free to organise themselves as they will

        read in the voice of a condescending 14 year old

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        There's almost certainly going to be massive brain drain as engineers, doctors, and other highly technical fields completely staffed with labor aristocrats and the petit bourgeoisie flee your socialist paradise because of material interests and false class consciousness. Pretty much no leftist ideology have thought this far.