In the dead of the night my partner and I both jolted awake and saw a large black wolfish silhouette with bright white eye lurking around the area where our terminally ill dog usually slept (just right in front of the back screen door). Luckily she was sleeping on the dog bed beside our bed (facing the screen door but a distance away). It was only a couple days later that she passed away, but we're both convinced that had she decided to sleep near the back screen door that night, she would have passed away in her sleep.
We both saw the creature, and it was definitely not a wolf proper because it's shape was kind of vague and changed a lot. It was only the next morning where we said anything and realized we had both seen it. It of course could've been one of those weird shared dreams that couples sometimes get or maybe a folie a deux, but I like the idea that it was a chupacabra or some doggie grim reaper stalking our dog down.
Well not a literal shared dream, but you don't think people who spend 90% of their day together, have similar processes of feelings going on due to both experiencing the same circumstance, consume the same media... you don't think there could be heavy dream overlap?
I see it the same way as when you take psychedelics with someone you know closely. Sometimes there's periods where you have conversations without either of you talking. It's not telepathy, but it might as well be. Body language and facial expressions communicate a lot. So there's a lot going on beneath the surface when you spend a lot of time with someone. I didn't think this was controversial lol
No. Young twins, so people experiencing as close to the exact same things at the exact same time as possible, do not have dream overlap generally. Therefore, I don't think it's something that happens all that often. The idea you both would pull forth the same image on the same night unless there was something specific to trigger it just is incredibly highly unlikely.
I must admit this anecdotal from the 3 or 4 sets of twins i have known, i don't know if there have been studies on it. I think it would be hard to study because dreams are just wildly inconsistent, it's hard to make someone dream without altering their mindstate. And that's fair that it's possible but I find it more likely one of you had a vague dream about the dog or morality and it morphed into the same dream the next morning, memory is malleable especially around dreams. I hope none of this sounds like i find your reasoning or senses worse than mine, I fully believe your account, i just don't believe the conclusion you drew. Less scientifically I could fully believe a spirit of your pet or some spirit awaiting it was what you saw.
You make good points and it's helped me to reflect on the experience. Sometimes in times of stress magical thinking seems to be the main thing that gets me through it. Sorry for any hostile tone on my part comrade!
No worries at all, I didn't get any hostility and I'm sorry if there was any aggression in my tone. And I have no issue with magical thinking, I have some strange beliefs and behaviors of my own. It just bothered me seeing that as the "rational" answer. My condolences for your dog.
In the dead of the night my partner and I both jolted awake and saw a large black wolfish silhouette with bright white eye lurking around the area where our terminally ill dog usually slept (just right in front of the back screen door). Luckily she was sleeping on the dog bed beside our bed (facing the screen door but a distance away). It was only a couple days later that she passed away, but we're both convinced that had she decided to sleep near the back screen door that night, she would have passed away in her sleep.
We both saw the creature, and it was definitely not a wolf proper because it's shape was kind of vague and changed a lot. It was only the next morning where we said anything and realized we had both seen it. It of course could've been one of those weird shared dreams that couples sometimes get or maybe a folie a deux, but I like the idea that it was a chupacabra or some doggie grim reaper stalking our dog down.
"Couple shared dream" is, from a logic perspective, on par with a spirit haunting your dog. People do not share dreams.
Edit:I actually find the haunting more likely because I believe in spirits but do not believe in telepathy/shared consciousness.
Well not a literal shared dream, but you don't think people who spend 90% of their day together, have similar processes of feelings going on due to both experiencing the same circumstance, consume the same media... you don't think there could be heavy dream overlap?
I see it the same way as when you take psychedelics with someone you know closely. Sometimes there's periods where you have conversations without either of you talking. It's not telepathy, but it might as well be. Body language and facial expressions communicate a lot. So there's a lot going on beneath the surface when you spend a lot of time with someone. I didn't think this was controversial lol
No. Young twins, so people experiencing as close to the exact same things at the exact same time as possible, do not have dream overlap generally. Therefore, I don't think it's something that happens all that often. The idea you both would pull forth the same image on the same night unless there was something specific to trigger it just is incredibly highly unlikely.
the twins study sound really cool. Do you know where I could look for more information on that?
And unlikely things happen all the time. And who knows what unconscious triggers are floating around us on a daily basis.
I must admit this anecdotal from the 3 or 4 sets of twins i have known, i don't know if there have been studies on it. I think it would be hard to study because dreams are just wildly inconsistent, it's hard to make someone dream without altering their mindstate. And that's fair that it's possible but I find it more likely one of you had a vague dream about the dog or morality and it morphed into the same dream the next morning, memory is malleable especially around dreams. I hope none of this sounds like i find your reasoning or senses worse than mine, I fully believe your account, i just don't believe the conclusion you drew. Less scientifically I could fully believe a spirit of your pet or some spirit awaiting it was what you saw.
You make good points and it's helped me to reflect on the experience. Sometimes in times of stress magical thinking seems to be the main thing that gets me through it. Sorry for any hostile tone on my part comrade!
No worries at all, I didn't get any hostility and I'm sorry if there was any aggression in my tone. And I have no issue with magical thinking, I have some strange beliefs and behaviors of my own. It just bothered me seeing that as the "rational" answer. My condolences for your dog.