Do you like, even watch anime at this point? Do you think when the average Japanese person watched Demon Slayer they were frustrated that the story featured younger characters instead of some 35yo salary man?
Do you think when millions of people watched SpyxFamily which predominantly featured a child as a main character last season they were instead reminiscing on the good old days of 1980s anime?
All of the criticism about the pedo side of the industry is all fine, accurate and justified, but this sort of circle jerk is realy just pathetic honestly.
It is almost like we need daily reminders that most people in Japan don't actualy care about Cowboy Bebop and Eva that much, and like it or not anime is made for them not us.
If you want to have a discussion that isn't the same circlejerk repeated without fail every time then maybe, maybe not, hey they even posted the Miyazaki quote elsewhere on the thread.
All media has gotten worse since the 70s in the US and the 90s in japan as the contradictions of capitlaism have intensified. The even the handfull of good anime are released despite thr market not because of it. The tears of the workers being being baked in only make it less worthy of faor consideration.
By contrast, the usual reactive circlejerk against treat criticism is fine and good, apparently. :very-intelligent:
My criticism of your entertainment doesn't threaten your entertainment. Your petty personal attacks in this thread don't even meaningfully protect that entertainment.
Since you conjured up an imaginary position where you're pretending I was demanding 35 year old salary men protagonists, I can just as easily (and probably more accurately) remind you that "adult" typically means 18 and older, and since so much contemporary anime that you seem to be angrily defending here is often focused on sexually objectifying dubiously-aged and often visibly childlike characters (or "looks, acts, and/or talks like a child but is actually a 1000 year old half dragon half angel half vampire" characters) for a number of reasons, what you seem to be defending is... questionable.
I also find abrasive and insult-laden personal attacks, all in some misguided (and unnecessary) defense of treats, to be "just pathetic honestly" as you put it first.
To use more of your own words, there is also frequent "circle jerk" of treat defending that often happens when the treats are criticized, usually with "let people enjoy things" thought terminating cliches and "touch grass" mantras in response of any/all criticism of some entertainment or another.
"It is almost like" I find your insulting reply petty and vindictive, and consequently, I will dismiss your hostility and continue criticizing the treats if I feel the treats deserve criticism.
The treats are not endangered by my criticism, and for that matter they aren't even protected in any meaningful way by your personal attacks.
Do you like, even watch anime at this point? Do you think when the average Japanese person watched Demon Slayer they were frustrated that the story featured younger characters instead of some 35yo salary man?
Do you think when millions of people watched SpyxFamily which predominantly featured a child as a main character last season they were instead reminiscing on the good old days of 1980s anime?
All of the criticism about the pedo side of the industry is all fine, accurate and justified, but this sort of circle jerk is realy just pathetic honestly.
It is almost like we need daily reminders that most people in Japan don't actualy care about Cowboy Bebop and Eva that much, and like it or not anime is made for them not us.
We need a daily reminder? This is so important we need to set aside a part of every day to meditate on this fact?
If you want to have a discussion that isn't the same circlejerk repeated without fail every time then maybe, maybe not, hey they even posted the Miyazaki quote elsewhere on the thread.
All media has gotten worse since the 70s in the US and the 90s in japan as the contradictions of capitlaism have intensified. The even the handfull of good anime are released despite thr market not because of it. The tears of the workers being being baked in only make it less worthy of faor consideration.
By contrast, the usual reactive circlejerk against treat criticism is fine and good, apparently. :very-intelligent:
My criticism of your entertainment doesn't threaten your entertainment. Your petty personal attacks in this thread don't even meaningfully protect that entertainment.
Since you conjured up an imaginary position where you're pretending I was demanding 35 year old salary men protagonists, I can just as easily (and probably more accurately) remind you that "adult" typically means 18 and older, and since so much contemporary anime that you seem to be angrily defending here is often focused on sexually objectifying dubiously-aged and often visibly childlike characters (or "looks, acts, and/or talks like a child but is actually a 1000 year old half dragon half angel half vampire" characters) for a number of reasons, what you seem to be defending is... questionable.
I also find abrasive and insult-laden personal attacks, all in some misguided (and unnecessary) defense of treats, to be "just pathetic honestly" as you put it first.
To use more of your own words, there is also frequent "circle jerk" of treat defending that often happens when the treats are criticized, usually with "let people enjoy things" thought terminating cliches and "touch grass" mantras in response of any/all criticism of some entertainment or another.
"It is almost like" I find your insulting reply petty and vindictive, and consequently, I will dismiss your hostility and continue criticizing the treats if I feel the treats deserve criticism.
The treats are not endangered by my criticism, and for that matter they aren't even protected in any meaningful way by your personal attacks.