What kind of political pluralism is there in the US? Are two neoliberal parties where candidates need 250-2000 million $ to get a seat democratic and pluralistic?
Which they're all critical of on :reddit-logo: , they want it like in western Europe. The rest of your comment is similarly all fun rhetoric, but useless. Fundamentally (most) libs just have vague notions of politics, in a vicious cycle with the dominant ideology. Engaging with them would, IMO, be most lucrative when engaging with them on a philosophical level, questioning why they hold certain things as obvious truths, when they are not as objective as they claim.
Idk, I think getting libs to acknowledge that Cuba is more democratic than the US is a good first step. Besides, you have to start with something that they agree with you on (i.e. that only the rich being able to be elected is a bad thing) to get to the good stuff.
Which they're all critical of on :reddit-logo: , they want it like in western Europe. The rest of your comment is similarly all fun rhetoric, but useless. Fundamentally (most) libs just have vague notions of politics, in a vicious cycle with the dominant ideology. Engaging with them would, IMO, be most lucrative when engaging with them on a philosophical level, questioning why they hold certain things as obvious truths, when they are not as objective as they claim.
Idk, I think getting libs to acknowledge that Cuba is more democratic than the US is a good first step. Besides, you have to start with something that they agree with you on (i.e. that only the rich being able to be elected is a bad thing) to get to the good stuff.