I've always found the Uncharted 4/The Last Of Us/God of War 2018 to all be decent, but all those games are kinda lacking in imteresting gameplay and are basically the video game equivalents of "Oscar bait"

    • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      God I have such a weird relationship with the Pokemon series. Like I think the gameplay is all very well and good, easy to pick up, it's possible to implement tricky battle strategies that force you to approach a situation differently, collecting the critters you like and battling with them is all very fun. So there's a solid foundation there, surely all that's left to do is add in new features that enhance the gameplay of collecting cute creatures and battling with them, right? And Game Freak does do that! And then they take away the same features in the next game.

      And it's not even like a new thing either, I remember being so mad about them removing the following pokemon feature in Gen 5, to the point it soured me on the generation for a long while. And it's like... Gen 5 is considered by a lot to be the pinnacle of the series. And it is really good wrt story and presentation and features. But they still removed following pokemon as a feature. It only returned in the fucking DLC three generations later. And pokemon amie/refresh, that was a great feature. It's great to be able to pet your cute critters. No idea if they'll ever bring it back!

      But collecting the cute critters still makes the brainmeats happy so I guess I'm stuck still turning my head at the mention of new pokemon news.

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        I just installed the fan made game Insurgence yesterday. Seems solid and the story has a more mature bent, people get straight up murdered and there's Pokemon cultists instead of Team Rocket variants.

        • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          There's a bunch of fan stuff for pokemon that's great to get into. You got romhacks (the gen 3 romhack scene is so advanced that what people come out with these days is completely bananas), you got RPG Maker fangames like Insurgence (iirc), you have illicit MMOs people are running, you even have two different Minecraft mods with two completely different gameplay styles to choose from.

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Gen 1 was great, and every other gen was a slowly degenerating, creeping into monotony capitalistic cash grab

        Gen 4 is the last gen that is likeable in any way

        • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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          2 years ago

          Gen 1 was great, and every other gen was a slowly degenerating, creeping into monotony capitalistic cash grab

          People say that, but honestly I think they forget how much of a buggy unbalanced unplayable mess Gen 1 was. I've spoken to multiple people who realized they were projecting their Gen 2 nostalgia onto Gen 1

          • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            People say that, but honestly I think they forget how much of a buggy unbalanced unplayable mess Gen 1 was

            Pokes were still objectively more naturalistic and less cash-grabby. The patterns that made gen 6 trash were visible even in gen 2, except at such a mild level that they were even amusing. Namely, more trivial polka dots and stuff to make 'mons look different

            Gen 2 was the best gameplay experience IMO.

            Gen 2 Crystal version also had the objectively best pokemon animations until 2013 (And I still think they're subjectively better than the ones after 2013)

            • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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              2 years ago

              The thing is, a lot of Gen 1 designs were subtly redone in Gen 2 (and somewhat in Yellow IIRC), and the Gen 2 redesigns are the ones people really remember as classics. A lot of the sprites in Gen 1 look really weird, and probably not how you remember them

              Those animations were good, but I have a soft spot for the animations in Gen 5.

              Really, just Scrafty pulling up its...pants? Skin? Idk, that one idle animation is what I'm thinking about in particular, I love it lmao

              • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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                2 years ago

                The thing is, a lot of Gen 1 designs were subtly redone in Gen 2 (and somewhat in Yellow IIRC), and the Gen 2 redesigns are the ones people really remember as classics

                Yeah I know but even the subtle redesign was still based off of the original gen 1 design.
                Also I legit liked the gen 1 GameBoy ones better in many cases, especially with Bulbasaur, and most other forms of the starting 3, it looked cute

                Really, just Scrafty pulling up its…pants? Skin?

                You're thinking of XY, he doesn't pull up his pants in Gen 5

                https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Scrafty_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Sprites

                All animations during the 13 years between Crystal version and Gen 6 are just distortions/translations/rotations. No actual animation in most cases. Though Scrafty actually has a tiny bit of animation where he closes his mouth and grumbles for a second.

    • SocialistWombat [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Pokemon was a series that billed itself on being friend with your pokemon. Then utterly failed on that premise when your pokemon are literally just a collection of stats and nothing more. No personality despite their 'personality', which is literally only affects their numbers and nothing else.

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The stats and moves do help you feel like they're your unique Pokemon that you have to spend a very long time with to level up. You can spend basically the entire game with some of the same Pokemon, even though you can catch any Pokemon in the game, and it creates a stronger mental "story" than a lot of actual story based games have because it feels less superficial than if you could just swap Pokemon out or they were always the same. Because of the way the stats are calculated, people generally won't have the same exact stats for the same Pokemon.

    • Eris235 [undecided]
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      2 years ago

      God yes. I feel like the first couple were decent for the time (even with the OG being a buggy mess), but they aren't great, and also really haven't improved much over more that two and a half decades. I have no idea how they aren't lambasted for being staler than CoD, or sports games.

      Also, I feel like Dragon Warrior Monster was pretty much a superior game (albeit did release two years later), and am surprised in hindsight it didn't catch on. Like, yeah, didn't have the virality of pokemania, but Dragon Warriors was already big in Japan.

    • Soap_Owl [any]
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      2 years ago

      It is, but also if you gave some nerds the keys to the property they could make something amazong out of the parts thst exist. The parts are all there to makw something great. Just not all assembled in the right order

      • laziestflagellant [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        You barely even have to look far for an example. Pokemon Wilds is a fucking adorable open world survival game built in the Gen 2 art style and it's cool as hell and more creative than almost all the decisions Game Freak has been making lately, and it's a goddamn open world survival crafting game.

      • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Thats why romhacks and fan games are great. The switch diamond pearl remakes are apparently coded in unity so whenever modders fully figure out how to mod them we will get some good content