No, they will only be there so far as there is a bourgeois class. Fascism did not exist before the widespread existence of capitalism. How could it be this eternal human evil if it just spawned into existence as part of the petty bourgeois class
You are giving fascism some type of mystical eternal power that it simply does not actually have, and playing right into the narrative of the fascist that they are acting out “natural law” and that “all humans are fascists deep down”
If you meant capitalism why didn’t you say capitalism, instead of some made up liberal brainworms?
The problem with capitalism is not that it is “authoritarian”. It’s all of its contradictions and it’s rule by the bourgeois class. I fully expect and hope that when the proletarian class comes to power they are even more merciless and “authoritarian” in their suppression of the bourgeoise
I think it’s a useless liberal term made to obfuscate and equivocate the left with the right, and it has no purpose or use to Marxists.
Say reaction or bourgeois control or something that actually means something, instead of a word you know full well Liberals use to attack the USSR, PRC, DPRK and every socialist
It’s not a Marxist concept it’s a liberal one. They are using it correctly within their framework, it’s you who is loaning it from them and misusing it
Robert Anthony Altemeyer is a retired Professor of Psychology at the University of Manitoba. Altemeyer also produced the right-wing authoritarianism scale, or RWA Scale, as well as the related left-wing authoritarianism scale, or LWA Scale.
Yes I’m saying that’s lib shit idealism. What’s next, linking me political compass ?
some sort of hierarchy to distribute resources, especially when they are limited or scarce
That’s not what fascism is though, and this could describe communism it’s so broad. The specific claim in this thread is that fascism will be around forever. It will not once the petty bourgeois class it arises from ceases to exist.
This distinction is important and not semantic because it is the underlying difference between liberal idealist “anti-fascism” and Marxist materialist anti-fascism and proves which one works. It’s not the eternal love and arguing in the marketplace of ideas against forever satan
I think is far too mystifying and flattening. Defeating fascism is a possible goal that can be reached and measured. What you are talking about cannot and will be automatically mitigated by communism and the eradication of different classes
It's not entirely wrong. Love for our fellow human beings compels us to fight fascism with overwhelming force so that it will never hurt anyone again.
It is wrong. Once the classes and conditions which compose fascism are gone, fascism will cease to manifest.
This is just Christian morality with a veneer of paint
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No, they will only be there so far as there is a bourgeois class. Fascism did not exist before the widespread existence of capitalism. How could it be this eternal human evil if it just spawned into existence as part of the petty bourgeois class
You are giving fascism some type of mystical eternal power that it simply does not actually have, and playing right into the narrative of the fascist that they are acting out “natural law” and that “all humans are fascists deep down”
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Authoritarianism is not real. Insofar as class conflict exists there will be a state apparatus of the ruling class to suppress the other classes.
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If you meant capitalism why didn’t you say capitalism, instead of some made up liberal brainworms?
The problem with capitalism is not that it is “authoritarian”. It’s all of its contradictions and it’s rule by the bourgeois class. I fully expect and hope that when the proletarian class comes to power they are even more merciless and “authoritarian” in their suppression of the bourgeoise
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I think it’s a useless liberal term made to obfuscate and equivocate the left with the right, and it has no purpose or use to Marxists.
Say reaction or bourgeois control or something that actually means something, instead of a word you know full well Liberals use to attack the USSR, PRC, DPRK and every socialist
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It’s not a Marxist concept it’s a liberal one. They are using it correctly within their framework, it’s you who is loaning it from them and misusing it
so... Altemeyer is wrong?
Literally who?
Yes I’m saying that’s lib shit idealism. What’s next, linking me political compass ?
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That’s not what fascism is though, and this could describe communism it’s so broad. The specific claim in this thread is that fascism will be around forever. It will not once the petty bourgeois class it arises from ceases to exist.
This distinction is important and not semantic because it is the underlying difference between liberal idealist “anti-fascism” and Marxist materialist anti-fascism and proves which one works. It’s not the eternal love and arguing in the marketplace of ideas against forever satan
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I assume capitalism and its accompanying ideology of fascism.
If you are saying fascism is eternal you are saying that capitalism is eternal too. It’s a form of capitalist realism
I think is far too mystifying and flattening. Defeating fascism is a possible goal that can be reached and measured. What you are talking about cannot and will be automatically mitigated by communism and the eradication of different classes
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It seems like you need to grasp materialism first
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No I am explaining materialism in a quite straightforward manner and you are sticking to idealism modes of thought
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