Yeah let's cooperate with a group whose one of goals is to wipe out any left leaning group. Liberals and centrists literally do not have a functional brain
yea because liberals never work with fascists.
you don't even need to look at history, look at present, Democrats and Republicans were both clapping together at SOTU when it came to defending Israel.
they're obviously stupid, but one of the best to ever do it did essentially side with the fascists before destroying them.
Yes but they don't want change, they just want the systems they interact with to not change drastically one way or the other. That's a problem when the systems are unsustainable and driving these outcomes, but unfortunately this :LIB: is stupid and will keep voting for rational fascism.
leftists are stupid and muck up every chance at securing power they possibly get
that's why i'm voting for a centrist liberal
"FACTIONAL LEFTIST INFIGHTING IS THE SAME AS DENOUNCING THE FASCIST DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES!!!!"
"Denouncing genocide = 'HOLIER THAN THOU'!"
Anon, I...
But wasn't it Forza Italia, Lega Nord, and Five Star Movement withdrawing support that led to Drahgi resigning? Forza Italia and Lega Nord are right wing parties. M5S is the closest to a left wing party, and they explicitly reject being on the left-right spectrum.
we are stupid, thus only solution is to eliminate private property holders and make comedy sitcom of leftist parliament infighting
Didn't Mussolini come to power because a centrist liberal government was too weak to violate the law and crush him and his blackshirts? I would think the priority of anyone trying to prevent fascism would be to prevent a weak unpopular liberal leader who will cave to the fascists under the slightest pressure from coming to power.
It was too weak to uphold its own laws and the Monarchy was in support of Mussolini.
Isn't that how fascism got its start? The sentiment that socialists were ineffective and indecisive, and taking advantage of the vacuum left by conflicts between socialists and liberals...also that is as much on liberals refusing to compromise leftwards as the contrapositive
my impression is the contrary, it was the success of socialism at capturing mass opinion that frightened the petit bourgeois into pumping money and resources into fascist movements
But the fascists themselves at least claimed to be a third way beyond liberalism and socialism which they saw as ineffective right? Even before the petit bourgeois started backing them
Fascists didn't claim to be a third way until they were being pumped full of money. Before that they were mostly former soldiers turned into lumpen-proles and gangsters, who thought that they had been sold out by either the socdems, liberals or socialists. It wasn't about perceived weakness or ineffectiveness on the left, it was about how to achieve personal power regardless of rhetoric. One of the reasons leftists are "holier than thou" (which, to be frank, is simply ludicrous for actually existing popular leftist movements of the era) was because of fascists stealing their popular messaging and language with no actual intention of attempting to deliver on those promises, and in many cases, do the opposite of what they were advocating for.
And this is besides the point that, in practice, fascists are liberals without a pretense of liberal philosophy or civility fetish.
Pretty sure that's why they read em. Dummies. Who doesn't already know everything the minute they come out the puss? Right?
It’s Italy, every political party there is petty, backstabbing, and committing own goals.
