Utena good no doubt.
I disagree about the rest though. It is like that one french movie. It depicts it more graphically. Definitely more graphically than is actually a good idea. However most anime is gleefully about sexual violence. Even regular anime has women's bodies being routinely violated as a joke you know. I am sure the work didn't handle it well enough, but there is enough there that the show being anti violence is a common read.
Like This?
Or more in the way if the other oher parts?
If it is the first part it is haveing a few spaces after the line break.
I dont think I ment to do it intentionally actually. It I guess is like the old bug food formatting glitch
it definitely seems like at least someone on the animation team was trying to titillate. and some of the audience for sure took it that way. idk, i haven't seen the whole show, i just think from the way it was framed it's kind of sus.
if you say the way it's written takes the sexual assault more seriously and is better handled than the isolated clips i've seen, that's fair. i just think that it's part of the problem in at least some ways
There are so only so many animators who you can hire for this kinda project and their primary practice with thise kinda material would be hentai so it makes sense.
No doubt the fumbled the execution but I think it still manages to get the point across. honestly think a lot of the reaction is anime fans being made uncomfortable about situation they would normally watch anime showing positivly and becoming edgelords aboug it. Then regularish internet people seeing them being terrible and decided, correctly, not to investigate further
Even the coments for that reddit post are fairly close to what I said. Some edgelords, some people saying it was simply overdone and made them uncomfortable. I dunno what to tell that one user but scenes of sexual violence should be shocking and make you feel uncomfortable. So I feel like my read is upheld even if the production didn't stick the landing. It is just burned into my brain that an anime came out where violence is treated as bad and everyone's brain has been so cooked by the awful infustry that that no one cared
that's what i'm saying. it doesn't matter how well it was written, the anime is still clearly part of the broader problem of the anime community being horny for sexual assault. you might be totally right about how well written and sympathetic the rest of the show is towards rape victims, but i'll never know, and neither will plenty of other people who the show filtered out by having a sexy rape scene right off the bat.
and so with most of the audience who sees rape being depicted as hot as a bad thing gone, most of the audience is made up of shithead perverts, which means it doesn't matter how good the writing is. the show might be saying rape is bad, but it doesn't want to alienate the large audience of shitheads in the anime community. and you need to pick one or the other, you can't have both. it just doesn't work like that
I personally felt they did a pretty good job about not making the sexual violence attractive. That doesn't matter to the discourse though. But we are both clealry not the lumpen otaku. And any reasonable and healthy person would agree with you that the show hadn't earned your trust yet. And capitlaism fucks it all up as you can buy sexy waifu dolls of the characters. Which is at oods with the writing and story. The writing is where it is good though. there are story arcs about PTSD and how no one takes violence against women seriously. How the poor are ignored by the government and have to bear the brunt of the violence. There is a sub plot about how there a are shonen heros off fighting a demon king in colorful armor somehwere but that is a rich mans war and the plot ignores it. The protagonist views his work as something bwtween necessary and unpleasant clean up and mutual aid. There is so much good stuff there that could have been wild if any otaku could absorb it. It makes me sad that it failed at that though.
that's fair. from what you're saying i think the show has a more severe version of the neon genesis evangelion problem where it's saying something about sexuality in anime while also profiting from from the horny anime fans, except significantly worse.
Utena good no doubt.
I disagree about the rest though. It is like that one french movie. It depicts it more graphically. Definitely more graphically than is actually a good idea. However most anime is gleefully about sexual violence. Even regular anime has women's bodies being routinely violated as a joke you know. I am sure the work didn't handle it well enough, but there is enough there that the show being anti violence is a common read.
i just noticed, how did you format your post like that?
Like This?
Or more in the way if the other oher parts?
If it is the first part it is haveing a few spaces after the line break.
I dont think I ment to do it intentionally actually. It I guess is like the old bug food formatting glitch
hmmmm.
does this do it?
guess not
this maybe?
nope
oh well. thanks
oh, hey. thanks!
You.
might.
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to click back up and add the spaces after you start the next line.
formatting
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it definitely seems like at least someone on the animation team was trying to titillate. and some of the audience for sure took it that way. idk, i haven't seen the whole show, i just think from the way it was framed it's kind of sus.
if you say the way it's written takes the sexual assault more seriously and is better handled than the isolated clips i've seen, that's fair. i just think that it's part of the problem in at least some ways
There are so only so many animators who you can hire for this kinda project and their primary practice with thise kinda material would be hentai so it makes sense.
No doubt the fumbled the execution but I think it still manages to get the point across. honestly think a lot of the reaction is anime fans being made uncomfortable about situation they would normally watch anime showing positivly and becoming edgelords aboug it. Then regularish internet people seeing them being terrible and decided, correctly, not to investigate further
Even the coments for that reddit post are fairly close to what I said. Some edgelords, some people saying it was simply overdone and made them uncomfortable. I dunno what to tell that one user but scenes of sexual violence should be shocking and make you feel uncomfortable. So I feel like my read is upheld even if the production didn't stick the landing. It is just burned into my brain that an anime came out where violence is treated as bad and everyone's brain has been so cooked by the awful infustry that that no one cared
that's what i'm saying. it doesn't matter how well it was written, the anime is still clearly part of the broader problem of the anime community being horny for sexual assault. you might be totally right about how well written and sympathetic the rest of the show is towards rape victims, but i'll never know, and neither will plenty of other people who the show filtered out by having a sexy rape scene right off the bat.
and so with most of the audience who sees rape being depicted as hot as a bad thing gone, most of the audience is made up of shithead perverts, which means it doesn't matter how good the writing is. the show might be saying rape is bad, but it doesn't want to alienate the large audience of shitheads in the anime community. and you need to pick one or the other, you can't have both. it just doesn't work like that
I personally felt they did a pretty good job about not making the sexual violence attractive. That doesn't matter to the discourse though. But we are both clealry not the lumpen otaku. And any reasonable and healthy person would agree with you that the show hadn't earned your trust yet. And capitlaism fucks it all up as you can buy sexy waifu dolls of the characters. Which is at oods with the writing and story. The writing is where it is good though. there are story arcs about PTSD and how no one takes violence against women seriously. How the poor are ignored by the government and have to bear the brunt of the violence. There is a sub plot about how there a are shonen heros off fighting a demon king in colorful armor somehwere but that is a rich mans war and the plot ignores it. The protagonist views his work as something bwtween necessary and unpleasant clean up and mutual aid. There is so much good stuff there that could have been wild if any otaku could absorb it. It makes me sad that it failed at that though.
that's fair. from what you're saying i think the show has a more severe version of the neon genesis evangelion problem where it's saying something about sexuality in anime while also profiting from from the horny anime fans, except significantly worse.
Oh fuck, I didn't think if it like that but that is a good analysis