Literature with a morally grey world can have evident virtues if you have the bare minimum of media literacy.
But the right-wing mind sees no good or bad actions, only good or bad teams.
Everything the good side does is good, everything the bad side does is bad. If Aragorn does something, it's good because he's Aragorn and Aragorn is a good guy. That's as far as a right-winger's understanding of morality goes.
So if a text doesn't clearly tell them who the good guys are, they have no way of judging the morality of anything.
It doesn't take a lot of media literacy to understand the 'good guys' of asoiaf are just the groups without power. It's less about good guys vs bad guys, and more about how the petty conflicts between the active agents of story cause untold suffering for the powerless. It kind of smacks you over the head with it tbh. Also, aristocrats are dumb, evil and petty.
Eh, Ender's Game judges Ender pretty harshly for destroying the Formic home world, and judges the society that produced him even harder. He was literally leading thirty child soldiers who were commanding thousands of people who were all sent on suicide missions around the galaxy - and the instant that the unifying threat to humanity was gone, World War 3 started. The arc of Speaker for the Dead revolves around Ender seeking redemption for that act by 1) finding a new home world for the last Formic queen, and 2) saving the Porquininos from being genocided in the same way.
The later books get fucking wild. Peter Wiggin's soul manifests inside a eugenics-bred polymath when he gets moved into the ftl dimension of conceptual hypersoul beings. Bean has children who all have his gigantism mutation but they find a cure by working with queen less formics on a slow ark ship, btw formics are mental slaves to the queens because they're otherwise independent creatures, there's a buck wild interstellar virus that obliterates biospheres if you get it but it's actually a mutation of a biological archival instrument made by god knows who, there's human-intellect ravens on a planet with the morlocks and eloi from The Time Machine and by the way God exists and she lives on the interplanetary internet
I dropped the Bean thrillers in revulsion after Ender's mum gives an Author Filibuster to Petra about how being a broodmare is the only TRUE happiness.
I was far from a leftist at the time, but it was both ham handed and completely out of place with the characterization established in Ender's game.
When I came back to them years later because :treats: she then spends the rest of the series as the Damsel.
I need to read less :lmayo: authors who would be better off spending their publishing checks on therapy.
I only read a couple books in the Bean Dad series, seemed like the whole series was focused on the wrong thing. Why is the story about the super genius sociopath who manipulated the opinions of the entire world via the internet in order to lead a series of armed uprisings that will eventually merge into one world government the side story to a plot about a bunch of embryos?
I'm pretty sure Card wrote a Peter series at some point. There's a full on Ender Literary Universe at this point since it's a cash cow. He just doesn't usually continue the mainline Ender plot any more. Plenty of stuff between the xenocide and the end of Ender's story.
I stopped reading after they encountered the alien species that communicates through scents (iirc), I should pick up the series again that stuff sounds nuts.
TBH I found out about Card's incredibly bad opinions years after I read those books, and it made me avoid anything else by him. Maybe if I read Speaker for the Dead now I'd find a lot that I don't like that I just don't remember anymore.
Literature with a morally grey world can have evident virtues if you have the bare minimum of media literacy.
But the right-wing mind sees no good or bad actions, only good or bad teams.
Everything the good side does is good, everything the bad side does is bad. If Aragorn does something, it's good because he's Aragorn and Aragorn is a good guy. That's as far as a right-winger's understanding of morality goes.
So if a text doesn't clearly tell them who the good guys are, they have no way of judging the morality of anything.
It doesn't take a lot of media literacy to understand the 'good guys' of asoiaf are just the groups without power. It's less about good guys vs bad guys, and more about how the petty conflicts between the active agents of story cause untold suffering for the powerless. It kind of smacks you over the head with it tbh. Also, aristocrats are dumb, evil and petty.
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Eh, Ender's Game judges Ender pretty harshly for destroying the Formic home world, and judges the society that produced him even harder. He was literally leading thirty child soldiers who were commanding thousands of people who were all sent on suicide missions around the galaxy - and the instant that the unifying threat to humanity was gone, World War 3 started. The arc of Speaker for the Dead revolves around Ender seeking redemption for that act by 1) finding a new home world for the last Formic queen, and 2) saving the Porquininos from being genocided in the same way.
The later books get fucking wild. Peter Wiggin's soul manifests inside a eugenics-bred polymath when he gets moved into the ftl dimension of conceptual hypersoul beings. Bean has children who all have his gigantism mutation but they find a cure by working with queen less formics on a slow ark ship, btw formics are mental slaves to the queens because they're otherwise independent creatures, there's a buck wild interstellar virus that obliterates biospheres if you get it but it's actually a mutation of a biological archival instrument made by god knows who, there's human-intellect ravens on a planet with the morlocks and eloi from The Time Machine and by the way God exists and she lives on the interplanetary internet
I dropped the Bean thrillers in revulsion after Ender's mum gives an Author Filibuster to Petra about how being a broodmare is the only TRUE happiness.
I was far from a leftist at the time, but it was both ham handed and completely out of place with the characterization established in Ender's game.
When I came back to them years later because :treats: she then spends the rest of the series as the Damsel.
I need to read less :lmayo: authors who would be better off spending their publishing checks on therapy.
I only read a couple books in the Bean Dad series, seemed like the whole series was focused on the wrong thing. Why is the story about the super genius sociopath who manipulated the opinions of the entire world via the internet in order to lead a series of armed uprisings that will eventually merge into one world government the side story to a plot about a bunch of embryos?
I'm pretty sure Card wrote a Peter series at some point. There's a full on Ender Literary Universe at this point since it's a cash cow. He just doesn't usually continue the mainline Ender plot any more. Plenty of stuff between the xenocide and the end of Ender's story.
I stopped reading after they encountered the alien species that communicates through scents (iirc), I should pick up the series again that stuff sounds nuts.
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TBH I found out about Card's incredibly bad opinions years after I read those books, and it made me avoid anything else by him. Maybe if I read Speaker for the Dead now I'd find a lot that I don't like that I just don't remember anymore.