I love this channel, and starting my day with this video, it put me into this amazing open-hearted place where I long to unite with others to build something better whereas I am much more prone, normally, to angrily wish to tear the capitalist's world down.

  • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Or perhaps the people who did that did so not because they were born between an arbitrary set of years but rather were in positions of power over capital and incentivized to do so by the horrifically broken system they lived in, all the while other people in that same generation suffered the consequences as well (like, you know, the black and brown people you just mentioned).

    That would require some material analysis though. Much easier to just assume everyone between the ages of 50 and 75 just need the wall.

    • Commander_Data [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      You crack me up, man. Hellworld exists because people made conscious decisions to make it this way. They aren't victims of circumstance. They knew what they were doing.

      • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I'm not defending the people who did it, I'm saying that you should call them the self serving capitalist shit bags they are instead of labeling them by their generation. Newsflash: millennial capitalists aren't any better, greatest generation capitalists are just as evil, and if capitalism still exists in 50 years there'll be some gen alpha Bezos feeding workers into the Soylent machines.

        Whining about generations is idealist nonsense.

            • Commander_Data [she/her]
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              2 years ago

              It's a fine analogy, Mr. Start my comment with "lol". Boomers are trash and so are their apologists.

              • HauntedBySpectacle [he/him, comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                yeah boomers are trash on aggregate, you're tripping if you think that means what this person said is wrong. actually believing in generational politics is a meme, capitalists can be any age. yes even infants I said it

                • Commander_Data [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  Of course that's true, everyone knows that "boomer" doesn't refer to a person born between 1945 and 1965. It's a very specific person with a very specific world-view. This is why "not all men" is the perfect analogy to combat all you concern trolls. Also, it's not just capitalists that are the problem, but those who live privileged lives under the capitalist system because of their position in it. But you knew that already.

                  • VenetianMask [any]
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                    2 years ago

                    Saying "not all men" is a perfect analogy to "not all boomers" is like saying a 65 year old homeless woman also has the societal privileges of a wealthy person.

                    You just come off like you hate a certain class of people categorically and that you don't spend much time worrying about the details.

                  • HauntedBySpectacle [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    2 years ago

                    not all men is a normal response to people saying confusing shit like "men are predators". people don't usually mean literally all men when they say but it's unsurprising some people take it to mean that.

                    like we're on the same page here about boomers but if you say in public "boomers are irredeemable" a lot of people will take that to mean all of them. Cause in most contexts just saying a general group like that means all. Its just in-group signaling to speak in generalizations but not really mean it, because some people wont share your definition of men or boomers or whatever else

                  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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                    2 years ago

                    It's absolutely a meme. Generational politics imply that boomer capitalists are somehow qualitatively different from gen x capitalists or millennial capitalists, that we can juxtapose capitalism with boomer characteristics vs capitalism with gen x characteristics vs capitalism with millennial characteristics. Outside of surface level aesthetics like fashion sense and use of slang, there's really not a whole lot distinguishing the three different types of capitalists. It's not like boomer capitalists are more likely to be industrialists or that millennial capitalists are less likely to pursue labor arbitrage.

                    Gates is a boomer, Musk is a gen x, Zuckerberg is a millennial, but they're all capitalists in the end. I was honestly surprised that all three belonged in different generational cohorts. Bezos exists on the cusp of a boomer and gen x, but no one would use this fact to somehow suggest that he acts like a cross between the boomer Gates and the gen x Musk like some Gates/Musk hybrid because that's a ridiculous thing to say.