I’ve got Redditors using this as an example of the KPD voting with the Nazis against the SPD. Saying they formed a “voting block” with them. Apparently it was supported by Stalin? What context am I missing here?
I’ve got Redditors using this as an example of the KPD voting with the Nazis against the SPD. Saying they formed a “voting block” with them. Apparently it was supported by Stalin? What context am I missing here?
I'm not super well read on the details of the end of the weimar republic, but it would probably be hard for anyone to tell you what you're missing, if they don't know what your current understanding of the events are.
Well basically the narrative that they’re claiming is that left wing parties infighting and finally the communists allying in a voting block against the Nazis was what allowed the Nazis to come to power. Basically justifying the anti-communism of Iron Front (yes this is more random Reddit arguing about whether the 3 Arrows symbol is sufficiently antifascist).
My understanding is that the KPD was not regularly allying with the Nazis against the SPD and that the SPD was the party being overly hostile over the KPD’s anti-capitalism
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And the motion that did allow the Nazis come to power happened during some vote where the SPD was not present, correct?
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There's certainly not one thing, that allowed the Nazis to come to power, that would be a gross oversimplification. But the KPD did probably not oppose the Nazis as much as they could have. Voting with the Nazis in the 1931 referendum and having anti-semites in the KPD certainly didn't help to hinder the Nazis. There's much to study and learn about the weimar republic, but to try to sum it up in a short paragraph of whether it was the democrats fault or the communists fault seems ridiculous. Wouldn't touch a discussion like that with a 10 foot pole lol
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In the OP "an example of the KPD voting with the Nazis against the SPD" which I would guess isn't wrong. Other than that I do not know.
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If the referendum itself wasn't initiated by a Nazi org I might agree. But as it happened, I think it's a terrible look on the side of the KPD.
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See that’s the sort of thing that I’d like to see discussed but seems to only get brought up as gotchas in spats Online over what team jersey someone’s wearing
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TBF the people who spent literal years studying germany 1919 - 1933 are probably not the same who spend their time arguing the same topic with strangers on internet forums. Learning is best done somewhere else, and constructive arguments are done in tight knit groups of usually certified experts.
turns out that things arent just ideas and voting, you need to have systemic upheaval at every level for fascism to arise
They should have kept politics out of WW1
Voting with fascists on specific issues does not equal and alliance with fascists. The left and the fash acts as they do for widely different reasons and sometimes the leftist desire to improve life for the masses and raise class consciousness coincidences with the need for fascists to build a faux-populist image.
Saying that this makes the left and the fash allies is almost as nonsensical as saying that the fact that both Hitler and Stalin had moustaches did.
If such a left-fash alliance existed it is also weird that the left were the first to be murdered by the Nazis, long before they got around to milquetoast liberals.