Antiwork wasn't an op but fintech shitheads successfully damaged it after the atrocious interview that mod did and neoliberals then managed to infiltrate it to dilute the team and fuck up any possibility of it becoming something powerful for pushing organising among the left. The attack to undermine it was very much an op and a successful one at that.
It never had any potential because it was “anti-work” instead of pro-worker and was an individualist liberal spin on worker activism - one doomed to failure from the very outset. It’s embarrassing collapse is the natural outcome of the tenets at its core, it merely flowered into what the seed always contained.
A subreddit is not a mass movement, and it is not democratic - and it is easy to grift, steer and co-opt. Did the “movement” of anti-work select their representatives and spokespeople? No, it was just some random redditor power mod who was in the right place at the right time. This is not how real militant labor can happen, there was a 0% chance of this ever working
None of this needs to be perfect to be an event that comes out in our benefit. Our goal is a marxist revolution and achieving that goal is essentially a series of pre-conditions that must be met.
These kinds of events won't bring about the marxist revolution but they can contribute to achieving various pre-conditions that must be met. Whether it is marxist or not it represents a fight between those unhappy with the state of things battling with the powers that be over their unhappiness. It is very fertile ground to agitate and educate in, to raise class consciousness and have people fail in their battle to move them on to new options.
The path from random perfectly normal person to a person willing to die in revolution is a series of battles with the existing state of things that hardens and hardens a person. Our job is to recognise when those battles are happening and to pull on the strings to make the outcome fall slightly more in our favour than it would have without our participation and pull. Ride each and every event until the eventual fully marxist radicalisation that occurs. Both online and offline.
I don't think you understand what I am saying. I don't think this is just merely an ill advised poor form of praxis, I believe this is actively encouraged by liberal ideology specifically because it's toothless and anti-worker
I agree with you that the bourgeoisie push inherently harmless things (to capitalism) as a replacement to stop people turning marxist. This is not the case with antiwork though and it's backed up by what happened with it.
he media immediately took an interesting in cutting off its head. And found the narcissistic top moderator who wanted fame to be a willing idiot. This led to the interview.
Fintech assholes seized the opportunity following this to grab influence over large portions of the community, starting their exodus community which focuses solely on social-democracy.
At the same time neoliberals took advantage of the chaos within the team and the subreddit to get compradors onto the team. Ever since then a slow and steady takeover of the internal team has occurred with multiple internal drama events shaking up the team and allowing neoliberals to rise higher and higher in the hierarchy, they now practically control it.
Antiwork was kneecapped with a baseball bat by these bourgeoise shitbags because it was genuinely helping the left.
You can talk about "liberal ideology" all you want. Our goal isn't to make the masses into marxists, that will not happen, they will always just be the masses who lean one way or another on whims and feelings created by those who succeed in gaining control of any given political situation and current at any particular moment in time. Our goal is to make the masses reach the pre-requisite state of being necessary for us to be able to seize control of them when the right political moment arises. We are a vanguard at the head of the masses not at the head of a well educated and ideologically pure marxist army.
Antiwork wasn't an op but fintech shitheads successfully damaged it after the atrocious interview that mod did and neoliberals then managed to infiltrate it to dilute the team and fuck up any possibility of it becoming something powerful for pushing organising among the left. The attack to undermine it was very much an op and a successful one at that.
It never had any potential because it was “anti-work” instead of pro-worker and was an individualist liberal spin on worker activism - one doomed to failure from the very outset. It’s embarrassing collapse is the natural outcome of the tenets at its core, it merely flowered into what the seed always contained.
A subreddit is not a mass movement, and it is not democratic - and it is easy to grift, steer and co-opt. Did the “movement” of anti-work select their representatives and spokespeople? No, it was just some random redditor power mod who was in the right place at the right time. This is not how real militant labor can happen, there was a 0% chance of this ever working
You are dismissing these things too hard.
None of this needs to be perfect to be an event that comes out in our benefit. Our goal is a marxist revolution and achieving that goal is essentially a series of pre-conditions that must be met.
These kinds of events won't bring about the marxist revolution but they can contribute to achieving various pre-conditions that must be met. Whether it is marxist or not it represents a fight between those unhappy with the state of things battling with the powers that be over their unhappiness. It is very fertile ground to agitate and educate in, to raise class consciousness and have people fail in their battle to move them on to new options.
The path from random perfectly normal person to a person willing to die in revolution is a series of battles with the existing state of things that hardens and hardens a person. Our job is to recognise when those battles are happening and to pull on the strings to make the outcome fall slightly more in our favour than it would have without our participation and pull. Ride each and every event until the eventual fully marxist radicalisation that occurs. Both online and offline.
I don't think you understand what I am saying. I don't think this is just merely an ill advised poor form of praxis, I believe this is actively encouraged by liberal ideology specifically because it's toothless and anti-worker
I agree with you that the bourgeoisie push inherently harmless things (to capitalism) as a replacement to stop people turning marxist. This is not the case with antiwork though and it's backed up by what happened with it.
Goldman Sachs named it directly as part of the cause of America's labour problems
he media immediately took an interesting in cutting off its head. And found the narcissistic top moderator who wanted fame to be a willing idiot. This led to the interview.
Fintech assholes seized the opportunity following this to grab influence over large portions of the community, starting their exodus community which focuses solely on social-democracy.
At the same time neoliberals took advantage of the chaos within the team and the subreddit to get compradors onto the team. Ever since then a slow and steady takeover of the internal team has occurred with multiple internal drama events shaking up the team and allowing neoliberals to rise higher and higher in the hierarchy, they now practically control it.
Antiwork was kneecapped with a baseball bat by these bourgeoise shitbags because it was genuinely helping the left.
You can talk about "liberal ideology" all you want. Our goal isn't to make the masses into marxists, that will not happen, they will always just be the masses who lean one way or another on whims and feelings created by those who succeed in gaining control of any given political situation and current at any particular moment in time. Our goal is to make the masses reach the pre-requisite state of being necessary for us to be able to seize control of them when the right political moment arises. We are a vanguard at the head of the masses not at the head of a well educated and ideologically pure marxist army.