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  • UncleJoe [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    The outcomes of this war are:

    A. Western-backed oligarchs in charge in Ukraine

    B. Russian-backed oligarchs in charge in Ukraine

    C. No side gets what they want and the whole carnage was worthless

    The war is a symptom of the US-led unipolar world order crumbling, not a cause. It is the fact that bourgies are fighting that is good, who the victor is literally does not make a difference. Should the Russian communists not also seize this opportunity to fight against their own government?

    • geikei [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Judging and weighting what the likely outcome is of either bloc coming out on top of this conflict shouldnt just be confined into what happens with Ukraine within Ukraine it has much greater geopolitical and material ramifications all over the world. Also Ukraine being within Russias sphere of "influence" and militarily neutral was the more stable post 90s status quo that was unilateraly breached by western coups ,expansion and aggression and that didnt translate to the huge fascist-ification of the Ukrainian state so it does make a difference both for Russian and Ukrainian masses if its a US protectorat or if its forced to return into being a military toothless buffer state

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Should the Russian communists not also seize this opportunity to fight against their own government?

      Set up dual power structures and an effective opposition to the government, yes. Actively trying to topple the government now? Eh...

      I think experience from 2014 Ukraine has shown to leftist opposition movements all around the world that heightening political instability while the center of Global Capital has you in their crosshairs is not the move.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Those are all shit outcomes, but I'd say B is objectively the least bad outcome. And C is the same as A really, since Ukraine is already ruled by Western-backed oligarchs.