EDIT: I'm very proud of this community. All the posts are making me think and solidly criticizing from an anti-imperialist perspective. Thanks, hexbear

  • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    People are attacking this meme for trying to both-sides the situation but I think the UN flag gives some nuance. The global "Rules-based Order" works for and benefits certain nations, and it ain't Russia or the Emergent Bloc. Also, Russia is only one of the horses.

    Or maybe that's just my spin on it.

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      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I guess some people are understandably knee-jerky about the "Neither Washington nor Moscow" rhetoric that often dominates Western leftist spaces. Some take any indictment of Russia as an aspiring imperial power (which it is) to mean that you see them in the same condemning light as the West.

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          • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Yup. I should also add that, while I echo the idea that Revolutionary Defeatism should take priority and that Leftists should be hard at work opposing their own imperial governments, the accusation from libs that we're supportive of Russia is something that needs to be combated, as it has been an effective thought-canceller even before this conflict (see: Iraq War opposers being called Saddam's Lackeys). Easier said than done, but needs to be considered.

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        It’s a much much stronger indictment of the west and the Ukrainian state than of Russia.

        Your interpretation definitely says that, and you aren't really wrong. But was that what the creator meant, and is that what most people who see this will think it means?

        • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          i created it. yes it is what i meant. i was hoping to pipeline libs away from a pro-NATO stance with this but I ended up pissing off comrades instead because I made the mistake of not posting this somewhere like twitter.

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