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Remember the rules; in particular, this comm is for vegans only. Feel free to discuss anything from beans :bean: to your undying and eternal hatred for carnists. :frog-no-pretext:
:vegan-edge: Veganism isn't a diet, it's about animal liberation.
Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose
:very-smart: Other resources
Short clips to send to carnists (CW):
- DAIRY IS SCARY! The industry explained in 5 minutes
- What's Wrong With Eggs? The Truth About The Egg Industry
Documentaries (CW x2):
The sidebar has other great resources to check out, too.
When I hear that it becomes very clear I'm talking to someone who does not actually care about animals in general. They might have a pet, they might like cute pictures online, but they choose not to recognize the injustices billions of animals face each year. They may even recognize that there's an issue, but it gets filed away in their swamp of speciesist brainworms as secondary - they're just animals after all. :so-true:
You say in the same comments that call for civility. They need to be nice to me!
Veganism is about animal liberation. We recognize that it's not okay to torture and kill sentient beings for our pleasure. We have no claim to another life and we're horrified by the mass murder being committed daily. It's not annoying to call landlords pieces of shit. It's not annoying to make fun of the bootlickers gleefully defending landlords. We're confrontational as hell to those reactionaries. Why is it annoying to call out those who, seemingly, want animals to be tortured and die. If you didn't want to inflict that pain, you wouldn't say things like this. :pathetic:
This comm lives rent free in the heads of animal abusers. I see it in your reports. Go to your own comm, don't remind me of me deep contradictions! Then we post in our own comm and a flood of reports come in demanding control of the comm we were pushed into. Sounds like you just don't want us anywhere? :thonk-cri:
Carnists really think they need a safe space, as if almost everywhere in the whole earth, online and offline, isn't built to support human supremacy and carnism. God forbid anyone dare challenge them on a small leftist forum about harm they choose to do, which they easily could choose not to do. They react just like any reactionary whose privilege is challenged and make themselves the victim, always erasing their actual victims
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You would think people that spend all their time talking about ideologies centered around autonomy and freedom of exploitation would be able to extend that to all aspect of their lives. Some of them do change, but reactionaries act as reactionaries do. They say they just want to kill animals even more and we're supposed to look at them like they aren't unhinged. The reports in this comm and my DMs are filled with salty animal abusers. I'm sure other users here get it too
They think "I don't give a shit about animals" is a complete moral argument, as if we don't spend all day dunking on landlords, cops, and capitalists who "don't give a shit" about those they're oppressing. They act like the point of being a leftist is just looking out for yourself or merely analyzing shit instead of actually fighting against injustice and oppression.
You can tell how lib a person is by how fiercely they defend the negative peace of the status quo over ever making any changes or steps towards left political goals.
I don't envy the salty dm's and reports, for sure. Carnists abuse and murder nonhumans every day, so it's no surprise they don't think twice about sending cruel and abusive messages to us either. I remember when Regan Russell died, the things carnists said.
These were the comments on the first fb post I saw about her death. CW carnists are fascists, and these comments are very disturbing. Do not click this link if you're in a bad place: https://imgur.com/a/cEejmzO
Point I'm trying to make is never, ever believe people when they say vegans are the mean and uncivil ones. It doesn't matter how quiet, respectable, and civil you are -- if you try to change the status quo or question someone's privilege, libs will paint you as the devil
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Those comments are somehow worse than I imagined. You warned me, but oof, I should not have looked at that.
Sorry, comrade :cri:
:wojak-nooo: "Why are feminists so rude, you'd win a lot more people over if you smiled more and talked back less."
:swole-doge: "Fuck you."
:wojak-nooo: "I wouldn't have a problem with trans people, but now they're demanding I respect their pronouns so now I hate them"
:swole-doge: "Fuck you."
:wojak-nooo: "A vegan said I was a murderer for eating meat, so now I'm gonna cook up a big steak lol."
:cheems: "I'm so sorry that happened, Idk what's wrong with those vegans, they should be more respectful."