The only reason to get mad at someone calling you a bad leftist is if you think it might be true. People will absolutely prey on your insecurity to make themselves feel like their chronic posting habit is praxis. The solution is to not be insecure. Be humble, do honest self-critique. Don't let lonely people work out their frustrations on you. There is a difference between pipe-lining and emotional blackmail.
And no offense Ella, you're a mod of c/vegan: Why didn't you or Kanna do anything about Catherine_Steward's super aggressive and inappropriate behavior toward's Poison_Ivy under this post, and instead removed a bunch of of Ivy's comments, even though Catherine told Ivy "fuck you", "Shut the fuck up you carnist apologist piece of shit", "Go fuck yourself, you piece of shit.", "Examine your carnist brainworms asshole" and "Nice ableism you piece of shit."?
Is that acceptable behavior?
:jesus-christ:
This doesn't even include the multiple references to my post afterwards on that comm that has been used as a lightning rod to instigate more drama.
Tbf, Kanna themselves jumped in and participated in the super aggressive behavior, so an objective arbitrator wouldn't be possible regardless.
Lmao they are removing the rest of your comments in that thread instead of taking down Catherine’s toxic ones
Disappointing but not surprising, I expected worse.
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Yeah I'm the one in the wrong for pointing out someone's ableism, and not the person being ableist. It's almost like reactionaries always show their true colors when pushed, and that I was right the whole time because when it came down to it, Ivy started throwing around ableist bullshit.
Her saying a mildly problematic line ("Go to therapy") after you had already directly insulted her several times doesn't retroactively make all that abuse you piled on her okay. Overall you acted very hostile and inappropriately with her. Combined with other behavior you've had with certain other users, you deserve some sort of punishment for it.
Don't bother replying, I know how you get and am not interested.
im vewy sowwy, next time i will go "hey there friend, it appears you've done a heckin ableism. maybe try not doing that next time?"
lmao
Again, You're acting like you only started hurling insults after she said that, when by that point you had already said the 4 statements before "nice ableism you piece of shit".
Overall you are not the victim of that interaction even tho you act like it.
You're acting like ivy did not begin with that first comment by insulting us
Nowhere in her post did she call you anything even close to warranting the vile responses you gave her. At worst she said some vegan users (Didn't even mention your name or hint at you specifically) could be annoying in how they went about things.
That didn't warrant your very 1st reply to be "fuck you", or proceeding to call her a piece of shit multiple times. Any other user likely would've been at the very least reprimanded for hostility. You majorly overreacted.
When someone tells you that your advocacy for oppressed groups is "annoying," fuck you is an appropriate response. That's how I'd respond to anyone saying something similar about racism or feminism.
Justify your behavior all you want, you weren't being a hero to anyone but yourself.
Disengaging.
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If you were actually a licensed mental health professional, you would recognize that this is an extremely inappropriate thing to say to someone you don't know on the internet because you disagreed with them in an internet argument. I will be very disappointed if the mods let you get away with doubling down on this ableist bullshit.
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As I said before:
I don't see every thread posted to this site. I already devote enough time here
Fair enough, tho in that case why didn't Kanna do anything about that? She doesn't have an excuse.
I don't know, I'm not Kanna?
Seriously this is getting absurd. We don't get to everything because we don't see everything.
You're an admin. You've been informed, and linked to clear evidence of, bad behavior and a mod silently (Edit: And not-so-silently, as has been pointed out) encouraging it. I don't think you're helpless to do anything about it.
Not sure its so silent if that mod is also separately referring to the targeted user as a "pick me".
Also it doesnt seem like so much "misinfo" to speculate that certain kinds of users have different threshholds for what breaking harrassment and hostility rules means when an admin does get links to current and past examples of it, then talks a bunch of stuff about time and attention being limited, then goes back to removing other posts for concern trolling and misinfo(at least according to the mod log time stamps, if these are faulty then shit, sorry i guess).
Comparing the linked users behavior to other users who have gotten reprimands like bans for hostility, its pretty absurd that nothing has been done aside from removing comments, for the most part recently only for either not disengaging or a blanket "inappropriate".
Also speaking of silently encouraging, mods decided to return to the locked and done with thread and the only action taken was to remove the post by the person that got harrassed(which if they had done so from the start would have avoided all of this). Dont think Ive seen a toxic atmosphere like that in any other comm.
I haven’t even received any form of feedback or response to the inquiry I sent to them personally.
All I’m getting is that on this website you are allowed to be as aggressive and confrontational as you want even to the point of harassment so long as you post on c/vegan or belong to a wrecker clique of the same 5-6 people who desperately need to log off
Thats really the only reasonable conclusion to make when encountering any of this shit, if its gonna be like this the least they could do would be to stop bullshitting and deflecting about it and instead just spell it out in the rules that its gonna be this way from now on.
I’m just going to report any harassment I see on sight, and disengage every time they try some shit
Looks like reporting won’t be enough if you are in the wrong comm because admins don’t see reports. So if you are in a comm controlled by certain mods then you will be banned and harassed further
Admins are apparently ok with this arrangement
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You could've at least discouraged her from personally getting involved in the harassment, and then subsequently referring to my now-deleted post in multiple threads afterwards as a lightning rod to create more drama.