Sometimes an individual becomes a lightning rod for a collective conscious to drive history in a way that would have been very different without that individual. Mandela and Lenin also come to mind. The dialectic between historical processes and historical leaders is very real
Ludwig: Marxism denies that personalities play an important role in history. Do you not see any contradiction between the materialist conception of history and the fact that you, after all, do admit the important role played by historical personalities?
Stalin: No, there is no contradiction. Marxism does not deny that prominent personalities play an important role, nor the fact that history is made by people. In The Poverty of Philosophy and in other works of Marx you will find it stated that it is people who make history. But of course, people do not make history according to their own fancy or the promptings of their imagination. Every new generation encounters definite conditions already existing, ready-made, when that generation was born. And if great people are worth anything at all, it is only to the extent that they correctly understand these conditions and know how to alter them. If they fail to understand these conditions and try to change them according to their own fancies, they will put themselves in a quixotic position. So you will see that precisely according to Marx, people must not be contrasted to conditions. It as people who make history, but they make it only to the extent that they correctly understand the conditions they found ready-made, and to the extent that they know how to change those conditions. That, at least, is the way we Russian Bolsheviks understand Marx. And we have been studying Marx for a good many years.
I don't always become a hypocrite on great man theory, but when I do...
Sometimes an individual becomes a lightning rod for a collective conscious to drive history in a way that would have been very different without that individual. Mandela and Lenin also come to mind. The dialectic between historical processes and historical leaders is very real
"Guy on a Horse Theory" - courtesy of :matt:
Oh that's a really good way to put it. For as much as I watch the cushvlogs it's fascinating how much good shit I miss
Ludwig: Marxism denies that personalities play an important role in history. Do you not see any contradiction between the materialist conception of history and the fact that you, after all, do admit the important role played by historical personalities?
Stalin: No, there is no contradiction. Marxism does not deny that prominent personalities play an important role, nor the fact that history is made by people. In The Poverty of Philosophy and in other works of Marx you will find it stated that it is people who make history. But of course, people do not make history according to their own fancy or the promptings of their imagination. Every new generation encounters definite conditions already existing, ready-made, when that generation was born. And if great people are worth anything at all, it is only to the extent that they correctly understand these conditions and know how to alter them. If they fail to understand these conditions and try to change them according to their own fancies, they will put themselves in a quixotic position. So you will see that precisely according to Marx, people must not be contrasted to conditions. It as people who make history, but they make it only to the extent that they correctly understand the conditions they found ready-made, and to the extent that they know how to change those conditions. That, at least, is the way we Russian Bolsheviks understand Marx. And we have been studying Marx for a good many years.
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1931/dec/13a.htm
Great way to frame it imo. That feels like the perfect metaphor to explain the significance of individuals in a greater movement.
I mean, in a small enough scope...
an individual might be a flea on the back of the dog of history... but sometimes fleas do have Epic Swag :fidel-cool: