Any talk by carnists about how "Well, if only you weren't so rude" is a smokescreen. Merely describing our views is met with thought-terminating cliches and accusations of wrecking, both of which get much more highly upvoted than our own comments.

Even if (as a lot of users have been claiming) the recent vegan posts were the result of wreckers, the response by the majority of the userbase has been so much more alienating than those original posts could be. The events of a year and a half ago are a lot less important to me than what I'm seeing today.

And what I'm seeing today is that Hexbear is about as vegan-friendly of a site as Reddit is: the movement is siloed within its own comm, has to regularly community ban people who wander in to snipe at it, and is met with extreme hostility anytime it ventures out into the main site.

  • pocket_tofu [she/her,fae/faer]
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    2 years ago

    This is pretty much how it went a year and a half ago, except the carnists were able to spiral into tens of threads with hundreds of comments across the whole site, while vegans were getting banned even in the vegan comm. Things happening now are just a sliver of what happened before, and to be honest with you, it makes me hopeful that things will keep improving