Is the lowest anywhere on Earth with the possible exception of Israel. 90% of the US initially supported the invasion of Afghanistan. Things went bad and then everyone convinced themselves they opposed it from the beginning. There was more opposition to the invasion of Iraq from the start, but I think it's obvious most of that is not due to suddenly-obtained moral opposition to killing foreigners, but in reaction to Afghanistan not being the runaway success that all the good little Fascists thought it would be. Basically the same reasoning behind Operation Valkyrie: those in charge are not competent enough to fulfill their genocidal project of which I otherwise approve.

That stat alone is wholly damning to me, but there's so much more. Interracial marriage had majority disapproval until the mid 90s. Homosexuality has been treated with both casual and thorough disgust until the tide finally began to turn in the late 2000s and then everyone convinced themselves once again that they opposed bigotry from the very beginning.

Most people see the homeless as nothing more than annoying obstacles, and recognition of humanity is rare.

The people on the TV and NPR talked about China for a couple years and now most people see the PRC, a nation with an objectively observable policy of non-interference, as the US's greatest enemy (and no, they obviously don't mean the greatest enemy to American hegemony as almost no one even recognizes that the US occupies such a position). How many of the people, even Socialists, who bought into the Uyghur genocide, have even glanced at prison conditions in the US, or the ongoing treatment of Native Americans? How many have even the slightest inkling of the US's campaign of eradication of Black Nationalism?

All of the good, bleeding heart people showed their deep, abounding empathy for the people of Ukraine because the TV Man told them they should. What do you think the rate of Zionism is among people whose hearts ache for Ukraine? How many do you think are even aware that the US is actively starving Afghanistan, and of those who are, how many oppose it? The only time the TV Man has depicted Afghans as humans has been when they convinced those bleeding heart supporters of women's liberation that we needed to save the downtrodden women of Afghanistan by turning their nation into rubble and their people into viscera.

White people finally got an inkling of what a monstrous force of white supremacist brutality the police are only when smart phones made personal cameras ubiquitous and social media made those images impossible to completely repress. Even then, the TV Man told them that giving this monstrous force of white supremacist brutality less money is unreasonable, so it didn't happen.

I think the explanation is fairly simple: the US' owes its place in the world to its system of vassalage, exploitation, and eradication. It must convince its populace that this system is justified. And for many people, it's not that hard a sell when they're seeing dividends. Even many poor Americans live lives of comfort and ease when compared with vast swathes of the world (especially the places the US and its vassals are exploiting the most).

All this is to say: Americans are materially incentivized to favor Imperialism and the social order it has enabled. We see the effects of this all around us, every day. Fortunately, our salvation comes in the biggest contradiction we also see all around us: shit is falling apart. De-dollarization is finally, slowly beginning. The US's vassals are chafing under hegemony. Things are going to get much much worse, and people won't find Imperialism and its social order such a good sell.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The thing is, as fascist as the US has been and still is, since slavery abolition(*) the people there have yet never been faced with the literal question "We either do a BIG fascism, or the treat flow is gonna dry up".

    The time for that plain literal question is coming closer, and I'm pretty sure what will be the answer. People in the US have been grilling while there was fascism going on in the background (in the brown neighborhood or some brown country), done by a conscient minority. But the mask is gonna fall off, and the majority of people is gonna actively choose literal fascism if that's what keep the treats flowing.

    "Bombing some latam capital or high inflation? TURN ON THOSE ENGINES"

    "Nuclear war or eating one less McRib per week? HIT THAT BUTTON NOW"

    "Round up the climate migrants in labor camps or stop eating steak? CHEAPER CLOTHES HERE WE GO"

    * Terms and conditions apply

    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The thing about Nazism is that it's unsustainable. Unfortunately, I do think we have some of the highest quality psychos on Earth, and many of them are in charge of or stand to be in charge of portions of the nuclear arsenal in the event of a collapse. We saw how deranged the Nazis were in their defeat, Goebbels murdering his children rather than let them live in a world without Nazism. Will our psychos be willing to sacrifice the world in their death throes? The chances are much much higher than I'm comfortable with.

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        "I'm not owned, I'm not owned, I repeat, as my skin boils because the world nuked me back"

        You know what's kinda bittersweet? I don't think MAD would happen, even if the US nuked China or Russia or India. Which is good cuz at least some people will survive.

        • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          You know what’s kinda bittersweet? I don’t think MAD would happen, even if the US nuked China or Russia or India. Which is good cuz at least some people will survive.

          it's also a wignat's wet dream

          • RNAi [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Sadly yes.

            They are the evil empire with the most mass destruction weapons, and the only psychopathic enough to actually use them casually, let alone while doing a tantrum.

            But maybe if someone suddenly nuked Washington DC while there's the Superbowl going on, then maybe the rest of the world would be able to get rid of the US as a global threat with the least amount of inocent deaths