They're not relevant in the slightest IRL.

Anyone want to explain why I see so much shit about patsocs in every online leftist space, all of which is totally divorced from things people actually give a shit about IRL?

It seems there's this trend where some patsocist says something absurd online -> everyone rushes to dunk/criticize/make fun of it -> the patsoc's message gets amplified to the millionth degree. Do content creators not realize that shitting out 500 videos/threads/posts/etc dunking on something that only exists online is only going to amplify it further?

  • Elohimbo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    One of the main reasons Vaush is so widely known is the hate spreading and feeding the troll and ragebait. The way to make Vaush go away is to stop talking about him, just like it is with Patsocs.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Nah this is completely wrong.

      Vaush was absolutely killing it with growth until we started /r/enough_vaush_spam and made an extremely concerted attempt to utterly fucking destroy him.

      He was reached out to beforehand by a group of us who began the project, we outstretched a hand and basically said we didn't give a shit what he did as long as he dropped the sectarian anti-tankie shit as it was just punching left and not useful. When he laughed us off and refused we stepped up, made mega lists of everything he's ever done and got bots made in dozens and dozens of subreddits that auto-replied to his name with that shit, we trawled through every single discord and every single big of social media he's ever been involved in and dug out every last disgusting fucking thing there was. We then spread that everywhere, so that the only thing anyone ever thinks of when Vaush's name is mentioned is what a fucking trans hating pedo defending freak he is. We then moved to spreading it across twitter. We mailed every single person that worked with him all the clips and evidence. We made sure real organisers all rejected him too. Nobody would work with him anymore because his name became cancer.

      This stopped his growth in its tracks. He was exploding and would have been a major influencer the size of Hbomb if the push didn't happen. He was absolutely blowing up at the time.

      Can't speak for the patsocs as I Haven't been involved in any campaign against them, but I can absolutely vouch that we took a data-driven approach to Vaush and our impact was extremely measurable. It killed all of his momentum. He has admitted this very publicly in mini-breakdowns about it, he knows full well his brand is shot to shit now.

      EDIT: I will go so far as to say that Vaush's rep being destroyed was a Hexbear project, even if it didn't specifically organise on Hexbear. It was members of this crowd that set about the task of doing it and it was the megathread of his bullshit that was maintained here that formed the start of all the facts bots that were created and spread among the leftist subreddits. Hexbears were the vanguard of that entire shitstorm against him. Also big kudos to Tronaldo who put shitloads into it and is the scrappiest scrapper I've ever seen, not without flaws but he knows how to have a fight. He's doing offline organising for now though.

      • Marxist_Lentilism [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Do you have like, a chart or something that shows his growth numbers slowing down? I like seeing it as a picture :blob-no-thoughts: I definitely haven't heard nearly as much about him since what felt like the peak in 2020

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          https://i.imgur.com/7iQbBvQ.png

          Our collective efforts started in December 2020 and really kicked into high gear in January. He was absolutely blowing up in growth at the time and then his momentum was completely shredded. He has not recovered that growth since.

    • DigimonOtis [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      He was allowed to pretend to be a leftist for like a year and was featured on fellow channels occasionally, calling himself a Leftcom. Particularly piggybacking on Destiny, etc. All before he started saying the dumb shit.

      • Elohimbo [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Destiny is not a leftist, he doesn’t even pretend to be.

        I don’t really get what you mean by “allowed” as if we have any control over random twitch channels or whatever

        • DigimonOtis [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          He didn't get big rage-baiting people, he got big riding YouTube and Redditt's content algorithms pandering to breadtube people while saying really vague leftist stuff, usually getting stuff wrong: like not knowing who the CNT-FAI were, calling peasants part of the proletariat, thinking Night Of The Long Knives was a beta-run for Kristallnacht, etc. This is actually what Haz was doing and was getting bigger until people who are actual Marxists outside the Breadtube sphere started seeing his videos and Haz/PatSocs started really dropping the ball and saying dumb shit that outs them as fascists.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      "Containment theory" and "don't feed the trolls" only let /pol/ flourish and spread like the malignant nazi tumor it always was.