I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    8 months ago

    I'm not telling Americans not to vote for Biden in November, i honestly may do so if i was Amerikan, but i'd probably do so by mail-in ballot from abroad because if i would live in Amerika, my top priority would be to get the fuck out.

    This is absolutely true because of climate change alone, if you're in any way selfish we must admit we lost, we already lost a long time ago, its only up to how we cope and make things a little bit better. If you can move abroad there are better options and if you absolutely must stay in NA then be concious that the choices you make now are choices you're going to regreat even 10 years from now not 25 not 50 years like we previously thought back in 2000s. Though I guess nobody realizes its been 25 years already and nothing was done since the early 2000's climate treaties etc. We are halfway there already. Scary isn't it?

    2023-24 will smash temperature records, it will prove the models are all wrong, nothing will be done and everything happening in Gaza will repeated in the US. People are still traumatized by how the west doesn't care about COVID anymore too.

    Make absolutely no mistake liberals would not cry one bit if government troops start shooting at chuds looking for aid relief after [insert newest unprecedented hurricane/storm here], all it would take is a premise and an excuse. "Oh they were rebelling actualy so its good" and vice versa.

    In that context whatever party is at the helm will make little difference 10-15 years from now IMO.