I mean my god they seem absolutely committed to driving us all off a cliff to hang on to their already-collapsing hegemony. Is there literally anything short of getting their teeth kicked in by a nuclear launch that could convince the leaders of "the free world" to once, just fucking once, willingly take the L?

I don't want to die in the opening cutscene of a Fallout game because whoever the hell is in charge of Germany these days decided to get into a pissing match with fucking Putin of all people.

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    like i will go over my reasoning here like the way i see it most of this situation is on nato, THEY KNEW that russia would not allow their ukrainian move, and they thought that they were enough of a deterent, and they were not and the whole region is paying for it, i think the whole war is dumb but if you have to end this war there will have to be concessions unless you really win it and the closer you get to really winning it on this situation, the closer you are to actual nukes going around which is an absolute loss, so it is fucked like we don't like putin, but like letting it escalate more and more and more is kinda of a dumb move, and i don't think the russian population has much control over any of this in the same way i don't think american population has like what they are gonna do, really?

    • booooop [any]
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      2 years ago

      Who else though? Do we just pick a champion who will make these decisions that ends up causing a lot of suffering and then say: ‘I’m not him so not my fault’. You either are partially responsible for picking them, or for not getting rid of them when it turned sour