Can people do emotional labour for me an explain why China good and why China not bad?

I know all countries are going to have bad things going on, but why is China especially good and why is it not especially bad?

I really do want to believe that China good, and the following stuff isn't supposed to be an excuse for me to post "China bad" stuff here. Things I'm specifically worried about are Uyghur genocide, Mongolian cultural genocide, and prison labour. All I know about those is from American documentaries that are probably anti-Chinese propaganda, but they were really convincing and had video of the bad stuff. I work with a lot of Chinese people, and only one of them says that China is bad, and I believe him the least. He had a ridiculous story about people eating his dog and he looooves capitalism.

I know the US and Canada and probably all other places have had this same stuff and are just better at hiding it or excusing it now, so I'm starting out at a point where China seems no better or worse than any other country.

  • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    If you don't support China, you're a lib.

    If you do support China, you're a Dengist.

    The only reasonable opinion is that it literally doesn't matter what anyone thinks because they're on their own trajectory and it can't be altered. Unless some of you are high up CCP and aren't telling us.

    The only actionable left unity position is that China is fucking up US hegemony and knives are now out for it. So they should be supported on that basis. Otherwise, you're literally doing the Imperialists work for them.

    That being said, if you can overlook the fact that life sucks there for the vast majority of the Proletariat because they've created so much new wealth, you might be a fucking neoliberal, since that argument is literally identical to the one they make.

    Believe it or not, it is actually possible to use capitalism to grow productive forces, and also not completely treat people like shit and pollute their living environments. We know this because there literally are other examples of Socialism to look to, including the USSR, which weren't nearly as bad.

    China reoriented to the West after the Sino-Soviet split. That has come with many advantages, as they're now richer and arguably ready to take over, but you'd also have to be fucking crazy to think it hasn't caused revisionism.