Can people do emotional labour for me an explain why China good and why China not bad?

I know all countries are going to have bad things going on, but why is China especially good and why is it not especially bad?

I really do want to believe that China good, and the following stuff isn't supposed to be an excuse for me to post "China bad" stuff here. Things I'm specifically worried about are Uyghur genocide, Mongolian cultural genocide, and prison labour. All I know about those is from American documentaries that are probably anti-Chinese propaganda, but they were really convincing and had video of the bad stuff. I work with a lot of Chinese people, and only one of them says that China is bad, and I believe him the least. He had a ridiculous story about people eating his dog and he looooves capitalism.

I know the US and Canada and probably all other places have had this same stuff and are just better at hiding it or excusing it now, so I'm starting out at a point where China seems no better or worse than any other country.

  • SSJBlueStalin [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    You are giving me examples of of things worked for the ussr but... Listen, we both know how it ended. I think if the USSR had been able to integrate cybernetic theory it would have done better. Similar if the USSR didn't have the threat of global thermonuclear war it would have been better.

    China is trying something different. They are taking a more cautions path. Yes, moving slowly does cost human lives. However if they win the great game, which is still a strongly possible option, then the can make the entire future better. China had to work fast, and did, and has. They knew they were next in line for a cold war after the the USSR fell, and the only way they could be sure to secure their potion was the way they took. We can't talk about china as acting as a free agent here. The material conditions of them being massively under developed and having loaded nukes pointed at them does limit their possibilities.

    So in a roundabout way, I feel that china's growth slowing is a sign they are moving away from using capitalism to fuel their development. Look at the belt and road system. They could do colonialism again and no one would bat an eye. Instead their belt and road plan does seem to be about development instead of capital accumulation. They used capitalism for what marx said it was good for. Having accumulated the capital, the means of production, enough solar panels to sit out the age of oil, and a population still cheap enough to feed . They are well positioned to take over once we have run ourselves into the ground.

    Or shits, entirely fucked. We'll see eventually. I am cautiously optimistic.