What can we do to change this? I don't think chapo.chat will ever be huge, but it would be nice for it to be consistently active.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    Lenin is a spooky Soviet dictator cartoon villain that most people have never thought of outside of that context.

    Real-world Lenin was pretty cool. Which means treating him fairly means saying he was pretty cool.

    Saying this guy is pretty cool is jarring to people who've never thought about him outside of a vague cartoony version from old propaganda they consumed when they were kids.

    When you link someone a random internet community, the way they consume it is not sitting down and critically analyzing everything they're presented. They skim through things and get a rough impression - what're they talking about, what's the general tone, are they funny, do they roughly agree with me? If the first thing they see is a bunch of things way outside of their weirdness filter / radicalism filter / overton window / whatever you want to call it, then they'll just close the tab and move on with their life (and lower their opinion of the linker a bit).

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      That’s all in your head, though!

      This is the internet. People watch ISIS recruitment videos and you still think being open about support for Lenin is too far for them to go, because they’re so delicate. You don’t actually need a really high IQ or the gentle brain massage of a deceptive multi-year leftist psyop to understand why peasant uprisings are cool.

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        What kind of argument is that? Yeah somebody watches ISIS recruitment videos. If I link a random person I know to one of those, they're going to call the cops. The fact that people who are comfortable with that content exist doesn't mean they're common.

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          so I mean obviously the core issue here is that you have some fear people will phone the cops on you for Communism. Fair.

          we’re not posting ISIS recruitment videos here and you should be more confident in your fight against liberalism

          Communists are not common

            • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
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              your plan to sell Communism by hiding Lenin from the masses is silly.

              • Owl [he/him]
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                No I mean... you're just putting random thoughts in my head and not reading what I'm saying.

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                  how else would I be putting thoughts in your head if I didn’t read what you’re saying?

                  You’re saying Lenin is too scary. For them of course, not you. Can we all tone down the Lenin to make everyone comfortable?

                  • Owl [he/him]
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                    Holy shit work on your reading comprehension.

                    Accusing me of being uncomfortable with Lenin in the thread where I said he was cool. What the hell.