https://www.today.com/today/rcna50033
damn bro ur telling me it wasn't a great idea to continuously expose the entire country to a virus we know destroys not only your immune system but also your lungs, heart, liver, and brain (everything!)?
lt feels like journalistic malpractice to not fully address the idea that covid has ruined these kids' ability to fight off viruses. Like we're seeing higher numbers than prime virus season numbers... in October.
Kids’ immune systems are not affected by COVID-19 any more than any other virus
I thought it had been well established that covid completely fucks some peoples ability to produce certain immune cells. Are you really making as strong a statement as you have worded it or am I being pedantic here?
A lot of people have difficulty accepting that this isn't just another virus like any other for some reason.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2022/04/14/sars-cov-2-actively-infects-and-kills-lymphoid-cells/?sh=4d1084ba86b8
Uncle Sam: "get me Ft. Detrick, I need them to develop turbo-flu combined with HIV. and make it extremely airborne"
Just some things this user has posted about COVID:
- the pressure on hospitals right now has nothing, almost zero, to do with COVID
- kids are no more effected by COVID than any other virus
- school shutdowns during early pandemic were bad and epidemiologists were warning about effects of not having kids at schools, not of keeping them from COVID
- nobody should get boosted unless they are old or high risk
- COVID won't evolve to be undetectable by rapid tests
- vaccine approval should be pulled by the FDA because the vaccines don't prevent infection
- said they'd previously had comments about COVID removed by mods but eyes are slowly opening, even here, to the truth about the failed vaccine
- directly told another user their booster shot was "really a gamble" and was not needed
- has not been vaccinated
so this person is 100% not a clinical data scientist and are just trying to get people to no longer care about covid, got it
I honestly felt bad like I was spreading misinformation when they responded to me initially. But like... I went and immediately found articles about how covid leaves your immune system devastated. Some people are going so far as to call it "HIV-lite, but airborne". Seems like something we should care about!
first sign should have been that he thinks people were locked down for two years despite the fact that kids were back in classrooms literally a year ago and most people clearly did not give a fuck past the first few months of covid
That's pretty interesting - do you know if other countries that had better COVID-19 responses also have this spike in child respiratory viruses?
RSV started recirculating in the US since the summer of 2021, and "lockdown" measures were largely abadoned or half-assed in most places since the vaccines became available.
I just love being a parent in the most normal healthy country. :joker-amerikkklap:
I had avoided covid for the first 2.5 years of the pandemic, diligently following all health protocol, barely ever leaving the house and always masking up when I did. Almost never saw my friends for two years.
All it took was one fucking week of classes with no masks and the kid brought it home and I ended up in the fucking hospital because I couldn't fucking breathe :agony-consuming:
Of course, all mandatory masking is long gone and it's only going to be a matter of time before it happens again.
Jeez, hope you're feeling better and don't have any long-term effects.
We're in a country with a ridiculous expensive healthcare system, too. Each bad run of COVID is a dice roll for bankruptcy. :shrek-pixel-despair:
is a dice roll for bankruptcy.
jesus, I get pissed when I have to shell out $80 for the ambulance ride, I hadn't even considered the cost in other counties (USA)
I like how they're blaming the kids not being exposed to the viruses earlier because of covid and not to the damage covid has probably wrought en masse to the general children population. Fun.
and it'll be cheaper to let them die than do anything about it. because only money matters.
Only read the headline and wow that's crazy, sucks that all these mysterious unnamed respiratory illnesses just showed up out of nowhere
It's just RSV and other coronaviruses. Epidemiologists were warning of the long term effects of lockdowns on kids' immune systems long before this. It's like bubble boy. Probably necessary because everyone at every level failed to act, just an unfortunate lingering side effect of the prolonged years-long school closures some areas had to do. Unavoidable once the state failed to lockdown effectively early.
Epidemiologists were warning of the long term effects of lockdowns on kids’ immune systems long before this.
I'd like to read more about this please.
The immunity debt theory is bullshit. At least a part of what's happening is that everyone just got exposed at the same time, rather than having infections spread out a bit more over the year. Avoiding a cold for a couple years isn't going to turn our immune systems off and erase all our immune memory, ffs. It's nonsense peddled by the same people who think constant reinfections with covid will turn it into a harmless cold.
Viruses like RSV are more severe in infants, so you would want to protect them from the virus until they are older anyway. In normal healthy children RSV presents like a typical cold. That is unless their immune function was negatively affected by something, like say, a highly pathogenic virus circulating like wildfire in schools that hurts the immune system.
Thanks that's kinda what I thought, but I like to give more benefit of the doubt than usual on this site.
I had a nasty respiratory flu several weeks ago that I'm still not totally over. I've heard of multiple people in my life getting something similar, and not from the same place. I've only heard of adults getting really sick from it, so I wasn't expecting that the children's hospitals are filling up. Not a good sign.
how do you know it wasn't covid
covid test negative? it could have mutated enough that the antigens no longer register as covid-19, fun!
The rapid tests are a very mixed bag as it is, but it's unlikely COVID-19 will mutate enough to not be detectable. The antigen tests are designed around a number of markers unlike the vaccines which lose effectiveness rapidly because they target only the spike protein subunit from a strain which no longer circulates in humans. I decided to use 4 of them that'd we'd gotten which were set to expire before anyone would've used them, back to back, when I realized I hadn't left the house/my yard for about 2 weeks over the summer while my fiance was out of town.
2 positives, 2 negatives. All stored correctly, followed directions to a T, different batches and two different manufacturers but both gave one negative and one positive response.
Never vaccinated, had neocleoplasm antibodies detectable in a blood draw as early as Jul 2020, again in May 2021, and again in Jan 2022. Never been symptomatic, certainly not when I took the rapid tests.
I tested negative, and my family and friends who got sick also tested negative. You would think that at least somebody would have tested positive if it was Covid.
My 3-year old nephew, in the span of just three months this past summer, had trouble breathing and was hospitalized with croup twice. At least one of those times, he tested positive for COVID as well. And then I later read how with Omicron variants specifically, many young kids who were testing positive for COVID were also developing severe croup. I believe there's a very good chance this happened to my nephew.
I'm fucking pissed that we're repeatedly exposing children over and over again to COVID and almost certainly condemning many of them to a future full of suffering, disability, and/or death.
