https://twitter.com/_ericblanc/status/1580198445595258881

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    It's obviosuly true that bottom-up struggle has given MORE SPACE & IMPETUS for the NLRB to do good things

    Yeah I'm gonna stop you right there, I love this bizarre thing western debate nerds do where they think refuting their own point somehow means other people won't notice they just refuted and muted their own argument, lmao it's like they think it's camouflage for something

    Now let's add context to this self-admitted refutation, oh what's that the feds are raising interest rates to trigger unemployment because they moronically think we're in the middle of a wage-price spiral, now how does that gel with the assertion that state actors don't respond to bottom-up pressure

    It's almost like there are multiple kinds of bottom-up pressure at multiple levels of scale, all interacting with a state that contains multiple factions who can use different tactical strategies (conciliatory and adversial) to tamp down on said bottom-up pressure, crazy

    • Heaven_and_Earth [she/her]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      He doesn't refute his point though? He says that bottom up struggle is a factor in NLRB actions but isn't the only factor, due to the fact that higher levels of struggle haven't always resulted in good NLRB actions. This refutes Leninist and anarchist state theory that say that bottom up struggle is the only factor in good state actions

      • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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        2 years ago

        He refutes his own point by relying on a misconception of Leninist and anarchist theory that is nonsensical and reductive, they do not posit bottom-up pressure is the ONLY factor, but that it is the most important factor far outpacing any other and that is correct as he admitted by mindlessly pointing out the "obvious truth that bottom-up struggle has given MORE SPACE AND IMPETUS"

        Honestly, just think for a second how ludicrous it is to argue that bottom-up pressure isn't the primary concern of any government in history, especially a capitalist one

        The only way you can salvage his argument is if you narrow the definition of "bottom-up" to like street protests or town halls or some shit, but again nobody believes that is the ONLY way to effect a government, so he's both arguing against a phantom and unintentionally refuting his own conception of Leninism and anarchism

        Easy to fall into a trap like that when he doesn't engage properly with theory and instead relies on pure surface intuition

    • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      the feds are raising interest rates to trigger unemployment because they moronically think we’re in the middle of a wage-price spiral

      If you look at the things they actually say, it's pretty clear that they know full well that inflation is being caused by supply issues and corporate profit-seeking rather than wage increases. It seems instead that they're raising rates intentionally to fuck over workers simply because they don't like seeing wages rise.