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  • AssaultRifle15 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    At this point I've got three guesses as to what the deal with the Metaverse is:

    • They've actually spent very few resources on this thing and are only pretending that they're putting effort into it as a means to distract from the terrible reputation Facebook was getting

    • They are dumping a lot of money into this turd, but the overwhelming majority is going into the pockets of executives at the expense of overly credulous investors

    • They're entirely serious about making the Metaverse a thing and Silicon Valley is populated by talentless hacks

    Right now I'm leaning towards the second option.

    • CarmineCatboy [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The Metaverse is actually the confluence of three things 1 - the same old tech dream of an ever exploitable augmented reality. you see this with chatrooms, second life, vr chat. 2 - facebook's decline and its history of just repackaging what someone else has recently created and marketing themselves into a dominant position. Meta is to, again, VR chat like instagram reels and so on 3 - the consolidation of media into far ranging IP oligarchies and the need to create a medium for cross pollination of everything under the sun. so you can be in a irtual coco chanel chatroom watching rick and morty, you bring up an in built shopping app to order a digital stranger things nike branded t shirt that you can wear to overwatch 3 later that night

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Ugh. I hope they never realize their idea to make cosmetics portable between games and different social programs. VRChat neatly solved this by the simple expedient of completely ignoring IP laws, but an official corporate project would make it nightmarish in ways I can scarcely imagine.

    • booty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      where he looks human

      he's given it like 3 tries now and failed each time so im not sure this plan is gonna work out

  • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    how do you have Facebook money and can't make your stupid meta shit like 1:1 realistic and instead it looks like thefucking Sims

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Severe hardware limitations. To make VR work you need to render two relatively high resolution images at the same time at very high framerates otherwise most people will puke and fall over and then continue puking.

      The HTC Vive, Index, and various other VR headset solutions do this by offloading all the heavy processing to a very powerful (for a consumer PC) computer and just having the headset consist of the displays, lenses, audio outputs, and sensors.

      The "Meta" Quest, however, is an "inside out" system. All the graphics processing hardware is packed in to the headset. This puts both space and weight at a huge premium, and greatly limits the available processing power. Facebook's solution to this problem is greatly limiting the graphical fidelity of the games and programs so the headset's hardware can run them at a good framerate.

      As a result the Quest hardware can't run things at nearly as high of a resolution or complexity as a headset with a powerful computer doing all the graphics processing, so they're stuck with avatars that look like that.

  • Snackuleata [any]
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    2 years ago

    This is what they're propping up as the future. As definitive proof the American system works and has grand aspirations beyond killing everybody for profit. So exciting.

  • redthebaron [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    we upgraded from sub MII channel avatar to around the sims 3 avatar really impressive stuff

      • flan [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        when you're a non-euclidean being you just want to escape reality a litle bit and pretend to be a bland human online

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Fucking tech-bro minimalism. Drop the bullshit. No one believes you buy your shirts in six packs at target. I want to see you push the limits of what materials science can do in collaboration with high street fashion. Fucking Naomi Wu has cooler clothes than any of these geeks and I'm pretty sure she works out of a makerspace after getting done with her real job.

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        2 months ago

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      • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        I've said it before and I'll say it again - our oligarchical overlords are so fucking boring. If I was the kind of psychopath who had that much money, I'd be visibly insane and proud of it. I'd commission a house made of pure marble shaped like an open palm supporting a Roman villa. I'd have so many birds of paradise inhabiting the pools and baths that the whole place would be declared a wildlife preserve. I'd be carried around on a palanquin by four huge, bald dudes while wearing a toga. I'd have servants following me around feeding me peeled grapes. With that kind of money I wouldn't be a lunatic, I'd be eccentric.

        Fuck, these people are boring. All the money in the world and all they can think to do is turtleneck, LA mansion, eat caviar, and tweet.

  • boog [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    i swear something about the metaverse just screams corporate and soulless to me

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      2 months ago

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    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It literally is the beige corporate hell version of Second Life and VR chat with everything interesting or novel or imaginative about those spaces carefully removed.

  • D61 [any]
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    2 years ago

    More human expression in that avatar than in his real world face, so that's something.

  • BabaIsPissed [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    my guess as to why it looks like garbage is that they are banking on mass adoption, which means hardware on the level of a quest 2. As to where all the money is going though, I have no fucking clue.

    Last I heard they had like 4/5 advanced headset prototypes, each one with it's own quirk (like high FOV and other stuff), but that can't be all of it, it just can't, it's an ungodly amount of money :ohnoes:

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      for it to be mass adopted people would have to want it. This is google glass all over again there is simply no demand and people in practice find the idea confusing and annoying

      • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        What? I thought everyone wanted to hear their uncle's political opinions come from a John Wick avatar as an insidious migraine develops.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          it's worse than that their uncle doesn't even want to use this platform to share his political opinions

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            What people want to use VR for is weird furry sex in surreal environments. But for a wide variety of reasons Corporate American cannot or will not provide weird furry sex in surreal environments. And so we're stuck at this impasse where they know that VR has world changing potential (Everyone comes together in virtual realm to pretend to have weird furry sex), but for cultural and ideological reasons they are blind to the exact nature of that potential.

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Life if Facebook wanted to make their "Metaverse" work they'd hire Disney animators to make furry porn avatars and then charge people a shitload of money for them.

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              I don't think a large enough demographic want furry porn for that to be a viable business strategy justifying several billion dollars of investment

              • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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                2 years ago

                You don't start with the furry porn, you start with stylized avatars that allow greater expression instead of aiming for realism. The furry porn comes naturally.

                They're constrained to N64-era graphics due to hardware, and look back at what looked good in that era and what looks like garbage.

                • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  look what I don't understand is how providing a service people use to make furry porn will result in a profit of tens of billions of dollars.

                  that seems like a niche market

      • FuckItNewName [they/them]
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        2 years ago

        New marketing strategy: Gift 1000 units to various library maker spaces in large cities. Sponsor experimental art exhibits and STEAM camps which all feature the headsets. Basically, let 1000 flowers bloom. See what people with an interest in the technology actually do with it. See what people react best to. What parts of the tech are flashy and interesting? Because clearly, they have no clue.

        They keep their best engineers with the coolest ideas in R&D making world-changing prototypes and then lock those prototypes away under NDAs and copyright bullshit. And this is still all we get.

        This shit is such a waste. Of money. Of creativity. Of humanity. You enslave children in the global south to mine the rare earth minerals for all these servers and workstations and cell phones and websites and extract billions of dollars’ worth of value that could have gone to healthcare or infrastructure or education and this is what you do with it? It’s fucking evil. It’s so fucking evil.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          New marketing strategy: Gift 1000 units to various library maker spaces in large cities.

          This is literally the only reason people use Macs. Back in like the late 80s early 90s Apple gave schools very favorable deals on like Apple IIe computers, so schools fitted out their computer labs with Apples and kids grew up in the Mac environment. It paid off because now people will pay huge premiums for inferior hardware and software packaged as a lifestyle brand.

      • BabaIsPissed [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I think it's not google glass because unlike google they made the mistake of hard commiting, right? They even changed the company name. This shit has the potential to sink the entire ship

  • Soap_Owl [any]
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    2 years ago

    The street fighter six beta had a more robust character creator than this

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Hold on, SF6 has a character creator?

      That might get me back into that series after not playing since 3.

      • Soap_Owl [any]
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        2 years ago

        I think it is unclear how big a deal it will end up being but the feature looks quite robust so far

  • Sushi_Desires
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    wow I really mangled the bottom text

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Emoji auto-complete doesn't work in post bodies -- it gets erased as soon as you submit. It works if you type the whole emoji code out, though.

  • solaranus
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    1 year ago

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    • buh [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Zucc originally proposed “meatverse”, a virtual carnicería, but the underpaid intern misspelled it and now he’s just making shit up as he goes

    • Soap_Owl [any]
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      2 years ago

      It is like what if they made VR chat but instead of having furry sex there, what if you bought office furniture and got yelled at by your boss?

    • Owl [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The metaverse is like four different things:

      1 - An open standard where VR shared spaces like VR Chat can interoperate (which doesn't actually exist)

      2 - A good reason to use NFTs (which doesn't actually exist)

      3 - Facebook's private version of sexless VR Chat with office furniture

      4 - A marketing ploy by Facebook trying to convince you that #3 will give you #1 and #2, but only #3 exists and they only plan on making #3.

    • RangeFourHarry [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      It’s that city that the alliance hangs out in when they aren’t questing, except there will be business meetings

    • Gamer_time [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      The more impressive technology: being able to reflect your inner feelings and soul

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      It looks like he just made a joke he really worked hard on and is waiting for someone to laugh.

      • UlyssesT
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        2 months ago

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