This goober is literally doing the "50 bajillion dead, gommunist vuvuzela bad" meme in pretty much every other post. Also this lovely person is a crypto bro because of course they are. The masters of critical thinking over at antiwork are lapping it up but what else can you expect from . :reddit-logo:

  • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Honestly yeah, when you put it that way it does seem like a waste to abandon. In hindsight that was an overreaction, bc I'm struggling to think of a better solution.

    The problem is, how do we deal with this particular kind of astroturf? Lib/chud anticommunists are often easier to handle bc they're attacking socialism from outside - we just need to bring ppl in. But in places like antiwork I notice more "left" anticommunists. It goes without saying, but they're especially tricky bc they try to act from within. They make their "anti-authoritarian," "more democratic" ideas sound like the logical next step to impressionable leftists. There are ways to outsmart them on that, but the biggest issue imo is in talking the indoctrinated back out of it. The kinds of talking points and social norms theyre taught will convince them they're more left-wing than you by default, bc they embraced a Better, More Wholesome Approach to socialism and you didn't. Eventually, instead of rejecting socialism, they mutate it into something completely different and insist they're still socialists. So if you try to reach them, they can assume you're attacking socialism from outside, as a "tankie".

    Like I said, there are definitely effective ways to handle this, and I now realize we can't just ignore them. So if anyones had success doing this, keep it up