Capitalists when they fucking destroy nature and there's nothing left to pillage:
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There's a very strong possibility at least some of the snow crab population went further north + west into colder parts of the bering sea owned by Russia / Canada.
the ecological collapse of an entire species of animal because of human greed feels like a form of murder to me.
there is also a big difference between a Jain sweeping the path in front of them and being against the mass trawling of industrial fishing fleets.
It's unfortunate your hatred of vegans seems to be greater than your care for the environment.
you can be against trawling and be against eating crabs without calling it fucking "murder" and trying to characterize the death of a fucking crab as equitable to the death of a human, but okay :shrug-outta-hecks: believe whatever weird shit you want
Why are you so bent out of shape over this? Fucking wierdo...
Be considerate, a heard of Alaskan snow crabs killed his entire family.
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That's wonderful to hear you are against trawling and eating crabs. How do you feel those beliefs extend to the fishing industry as a whole?
I don't eat fish or any seafood shit tastes like ass
killing a fish still isn't murder
hate to break it to you but the oceans are gonna die anyway and then we're all dead too
It seems like you're fine with the industry you just personally don't like seafood. Fish are more advanced than humans give any credit for and even fishing where you throw them back, you're inflicting trauma on a creature and they do remember the pain and suffering of the hook.
Why is it not murder? The fish may not be able to conceptualize their own death and feel anything particular about it, but it is still the snuffing of a life. Animal liberation is an integral part of not only mitigating climate disaster, but something we should be advocating for as a species that is able to conceptualize death and empathize with other creatures.
Just because something bad is happening doesn't mean that we should simply throw our hands up and stop trying to advocate for a better world.
because murder is a word specifically used to refer to the killing of persons, not the killing of whatever random shit, and it is generally considered insulting to hold up the death of a bug and the death of a person as equitable
you wanna call killing an elephant murder? okay sure
you wanna call killing a dolphin murder? fine I agree
call killing a fly murder? there's literally something wrong with you if you think it's the same fucking thing
What is that line that specifically demands that it is not murder? Is it the fact that an insect is an arthropod and thus much more distantly related to us than an elephant or dolphin which are closely related? There is more depth to the animal world than we want to ever admit because it makes us ask uncomfortable questions about ourselves. We can notice a difference in personalities in spiders and we've noted that jumping spiders can dream. We humans demand that the natural world bend to our will with the consequences be damned and without a shred of respect to all of the other creatures and living beings that are fundamental to even creating a habitable space for us. Things die, the natural world is cruel but we should try to minimize our impact on the amount of cruelty in the world.
There is no clean line. What's the difference between a cat and a pig beyond culture stating one is food and the other is a pet? Why does there need to be a specific level of sentience for a life to be valued? When we're talking about the systemic destruction of an entire species due to human avarice, is that not murder as well? Is that not actually worse than murder? We're destroying countless lives and destroying the planet but when someone tells you that maybe killing animals for food is just not sustainable and that we should value the lives of the creatures around us, people get absurdly worked up and aggressive defending their right to destroy the lives of countless creatures across the world.
Murder,
noun the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
plants and fungi can communicate but strangely that's never a consideration, obviously the line is drawn somewhere, and you're committing the same neuro-chauvinism as I but with a different cut-off for "the value of life"
You responded so fast that you clearly didn't even read. You're quoting the fucking dictionary at me, are you not ashamed?
Languages evolve, the usage of words can shift and rules can be intentionally broken to make a point. You're clearly in bad faith and I'm done.
I think if you're "evolving language" to the point that you are arguing a pest control sweep for roaches is the same as the holocaust you're "evolving language" in a pretty shitty way
fine ditto
where did anyone say that? last i checked people were complaining that crabs were being fished out of existence. bit of a reach there
some jackasses doing a bad parody of vegans are throwing around words like "murder"
They said "crab murder"
They're literally differentiating it from normal murder because it does not normally fall under the umbrella of murder.
Just like how there's a difference between "porn" and "food porn".
Thats why they said "crab murder" dipshit
🙄 🙄 🙄 okay dipshit
exactly
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