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more fuel for the gambo struggle session

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I remember reading the first book in high school, voicing my discomfort with the pedophilia and rape and saying it was a little bit too detailed only to be lectured that I was being a prude

    Here on Hexbear, I got called a "joyless scold" and even a "Karen" for criticizing the sexual violence and torture treats.

    And I was specifically talking about the show. Even criticizing "Gambo, now with more sexual violence than the books!" made me a joyless scolding Karen. :maybe-later-kiddo:

    EDIT: Apparently being upset over treat criticism is not a waste of time and is totally healthy, but expressing criticism for treats is "malding" and "unhealthy." The hypocrisy is astounding but not unexpected. I had to hear about Gambo exhaustively for years, unsolicited, at work and elsewhere. Apparently it's unbearable to have criticism even on a little site like this for some defenders. :agony-minion:

    • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I mean it is entirely possible to be both a joyless scold and also entirely correct.

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I have joy in my life.

        I don't derive it from spectacles of sexual violence and torture.

        • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          Then don't partake in the media consumption ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

          Just don't confuse it for meaningful politics or praxis, its literally just media consumption (even if you abstain for moral or ideological reasons).

          It gets tiring to have to see on a weekly basis pretty meaningless conversations about "popular thing bad" when the now weekly circlejerks about Gambo Thrones or Avengers comes up, acting as if the abstinence of certain media is somehow in it of itself a form of praxis.

          Its on the same level as a Lib bragging about how they don't partake in conservative Christian films....like cool I guess?

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Then don’t partake in the media criticism ¯_(ツ)_/¯

            It is actually a lot easier to avoid treat criticism if you don’t like it than it is to have avoided a decade of pop culture saturation about red weddings and so on.

            Just don't confuse defending your entertainment for meaningful politics or praxis.

            It gets tiring to have to see on a weekly basis pretty meaningless defenses of your entertainment, as if silencing dissent against your chosen consumer treats is somehow in itself a form of praxis.

            It's on the same level of lib propaganda telling us this is the best possible world and that everyone should just sit down, shut up, and participate in the status quo without another word of criticism.

            It isn't just word replacement above. Nothing you argued is in any way inapplicable to your own perspective, except you want to go to bat for this particular treat as if it is threatened by criticism. I hold no such belief; I know my criticism won't destroy the treat, even if I wanted it to. You can just let the criticism exist, but no, you ironically waste time being upset about what you think is wasted time.

            • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              I have no idea what you are going on about but you are spending far too much time malding over treats than is healthy.

              Disengaging now.

        • bubbalu [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          Thank you for making me feel less alone on this one. Despite playing a lot of violent video games when I was younger, I can't really handle any violent media now. It just makes me really upset and grossed out. So many people get frustrated with me when I tell them I don't really like to watch shows because watching (sexual) violence makes me uncomfortable.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Consuming the violence (sexual and otherwise) treats (and defending them) is cool and good, but expressing dislike or even criticism of them is "malding" and "unhealthy" to some here. :kombucha-disgust:

            • bubbalu [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              At the same time, I think it's important to be compassionate about people's starting points. We live in a society that simultaneously hyper-normalizes violence and displays of violence while also promoting this idea of consuming edgy and (sexually) violent media as radical or subversive. It also promotes media-consumption-as-identity-formation. For me, realizing this lets me take people's kneejerk reactions less personally. Sorry a bit rambly.

              • UlyssesT [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                I see where you're coming from and I see your point.

                That said, when some enthusiast for the slop calls me names and concern trolls me about how it's not healthy to criticize the slop (implying it's healthy to defend the slop with such pettiness) it discourages me from much further sympathy for them.